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A post for By My Spirit. A discussion on faith.
Posted:Apr 2, 2011 7:13 am
Last Updated:Jun 7, 2011 4:49 pm
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Let me begin by saying I appretiate and respect your willingness By My Spirit, to have a dialogue with me on our opinions concerning matters of faith. I am not a person who likes to play "bible tennis" where two individuals go back and fourth qouting scripture as if that alone will settle any disagreements because at the end of the day the Bible requires an interpreter. I am of the personal opinion that interpreter is the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, and not individuals.

That is not to say that I think people are stupid and cannot "reason things out" on their own, however I believe the Church is the guardian of the Bibles truths and as such has a moral responsibility to defend it against mis-interpretations which lead to heresies.

To be clear anyone can join in on this discussion. This is not an argument rather just a friendly exchange of opinions on faith and morals. There will be no insults nor will I even censor anyone's opinions merely because I disagree with them.

I will try to keep my responses as brief as I possibly can, however I know that attention spans are short and nobody likes to read hours worth of paragraphs or 20 pages of cut and paste. I won't censor cut and pastes but I much prefer people try to keep their points brief where possible. As to not make me fall asleep from trying to read it all .


Your very first question to me on a different blog was this: (Feel free to correct me at anytime if I am misunderstanding or misrepresenting your beliefs).


" First question, when Jesus called Peter a rock, was this the Rock that the church would be established upon?

I say that the Rock was that Peter had heard from the Holy Spirit Mt 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

And that as Christians we can all hear from the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is the Rock. That through the Holy Spirit we have "Revelation" just like Peter did."


I will answer this question in my next post on this blog so please stay tuned for my response to your opinion By My Spirit.
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Saint John Bosco vision of hell.
Posted:Nov 22, 2010 11:19 am
Last Updated:Feb 3, 2011 6:51 am
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I thought I would share this with you all, since it is a story that interested me. I of course cannot vouch that John Bosco really experienced this. Still he was a credible man in his day and wrote of this experience. You decide if it happened or was just made up fiction.



The Holy Saint John Bosco had a Prophetic Vision of Hell in 1868 A.D., (*which is recorded in its entirety below.)
Many of the dreams of St. John Bosco could more properly be called visions, for God used this means to reveal His will for the Saint and for the boys of the Oratory, as well as the future of the Salesian Congregation. Not only did his dreams lead and direct the Saint, they also gave him wisdom and guidance by which he was able to help and guide others upon their ways. He was just nine years of age when he had his first dream that laid out his life mission. It was this dream that impressed Pope Pius IX so much that he ordered St. John Bosco to write down his dreams for the encouragement of his Congregation and the rest of us. Through dreams God allowed him to know the future of each of the boys of his Oratory. Through dreams God let him know the boys' state of their souls. On February 1, 1865 St. John Bosco announced that one of the boys will die soon. He knew the boy through the dream the night before. On March 16, 1865, Anthony Ferraris passed away after receiving the Last Sacraments. John Bisio, who helped Anthony and his mother during the former's last hour, confirmed the story of his part in this episode by a formal oath, concluding as foIlows: "Don Bosco told us many other dreams concerning Oratory boys' deaths. We believed them to be true prophecies. We still do, because unfailingly they came true. During the seven years I lived at the Oratory, not a boy died without Don Bosco predicting his death. We were also convinced that whoever died there under his care and assistance surely went to heaven."

*The Road to Hell
(Prophetic Dream of St. John Bosco 1868 A.D.)

On Sunday night, May 3 [1868], the feast of Saint Joseph's patronage, Don Bosco resumed the narration of his dreams:

I have another dream to tell you, a sort of aftermath of those I told you last Thursday and Friday which totally exhausted me. Call them dreams or whatever you like. Always, as you know, on the night of April 17 a frightful toad seemed bent on devouring me. When it finally vanished, a voice said to me: "Why don't you tell them?" I turned in that direction and saw a distinguished person standing by my bed. Feeling guilty about my silence, I asked: "What should I tell my boys?"

"What you have seen and heard in your last dreams and what you have wanted to know and shall have revealed to you tomorrow night!" He then vanished.

I spent the whole next day worrying about the miserable night in store for me, and when evening came, loath to go to bed, I sat at my desk browsing through books until midnight. The mere thought of having more nightmares thoroughly scare me. However, with great effort, I finally went to bed.

"Get up and follow me!" he said.

"For Heaven's sake," I protested, "leave me alone. I am exhausted! I've been tormented by a toothache for several days now and need rest. Besides, nightmares have completely worn me out." I said this because this man's apparition always means trouble, fatigue, and terror for me.

"Get up," he repeated. "You have no time to lose."

I complied and followed him. "Where are you taking me?" I asked.

"Never mind. You'll see." He led me to a vast, boundless plain, veritably a lifeless desert, with not a soul in sight or a tree or brook. Yellowed, dried-up vegetation added to the desolation I had no idea where I was or what was I to do. For a moment I even lost sight of my guide and feared that I was lost, utterly alone. Father Rua, Father Francesia, nowhere to be seen. When I finally saw my friend coming toward me, I sighed in relief.

"Where am I?" I asked.

"Come with me and you will find out!"

"All right. I'll go with you."

He led the way and I followed in silence, but after a long, dismal trudge, I began worrying whether I would ever be able to cross that vast expanse, what with my toothache and swollen legs. Suddenly I saw a road ahead.

"Where to now?" I asked my guide.

"This way," he replied.

We took the road. It was beautiful, wide, and neatly paved. "The way of sinners is made plain with stones, and in their end is hell, and darkness, and pains. " (Ecclesiasticus 21: 11, stones: broad and easy.) Both sides were lined with magnificent verdant hedges dotted with gorgeous flowers. Roses, especially, peeped everywhere through the leaves. At first glance, the road was level and comfortable, and so I ventured upon it without the least suspicion, but soon I noticed that it insensibly kept sloping downward. Though it did not look steep at all, I found myself moving so swiftly that I felt I was effortlessly gliding through the air. Really, I was gliding and hardly using my feet. Then the thought struck me that the return trip would be very long and arduous.

"How shall we get back to the Oratory?" I asked worriedly.

"Do not worry," he answered. "The Almighty wants you to go. He who leads you on will also know how to lead you back."

The road is sloping downward. As we were continuing on our way, flanked by banks of roses and other flowers, I became aware that the Oratory boys and very many others whom I did not know were following me. Somehow I found myself in their midst. As I was looking at them, I noticed now one, now another fall to the ground and instantly be dragged by an unseen force toward a frightful drop, distantly visible, which sloped into a furnace. "What makes these boys fall?" I asked my companion. "The proud have hidden a net for me. And they have stretched out cords for a snare: they have laid for me a stumbling-block by the wayside." (Psalms 139: 6)

"Take a closer look," he replied.

I did. Traps were everywhere, some close to the ground, others at eye level, but all well concealed. Unaware of their danger, many boys got caught, and they tripped, they would sprawl to the ground, legs in the air. Then, when they managed to get back on their feet, they would run headlong down the road toward the abyss. Some got trapped by the head, others by the neck, hand, arms, legs, or sides, and were pulled down instantly. The ground traps, fine as spiders' webs and hardly visible, seemed very flimsy and harmless; yet, to my surprise, every boy they snared fell to the ground.

Noticing my astonishment, the guide remarked, "Do you know what this is?"

"Just some filmy fiber," I answered.

"A mere nothing," he said, "just plain human respect.",

Seeing that many boys were being caught in those straps. I asked, "Why do so many get caught? Who pulls them down?"

"Go nearer and you will see!" he told me.

I followed his advice but saw nothing peculiar.

"Look closer," he insisted.

I picked up one of the traps and tugged. I immediately felt some resistance. I pulled harder, only to feel that, instead of drawing the thread closer, I was being pulled down myself. I did not resist and soon found myself at the mouth of a frightful cave. I halted, unwilling to venture into that deep cavern, and again started pulling the thread toward me. It gave a little, but only through great effort on my part. I kept tugging, and after a long while a huge, hideous monster emerged, clutching a rope to which all those traps were tied together. He was the one who instantly dragged down anyone who got caught in them. It won't do to match my strength with his, I said to myself. I'll certainly lose. I'd better fight him with the Sign of the Cross and with short invocations.

Then I went back to my guide. "Now you know who he is," he said to me.

"I surely do! It is the devil himself!"

Carefully examining many of the traps, I saw that each bore an inscription: Pride, Disobedience, Envy, Sixth Commandment, Theft, Gluttony, Sloth, Anger and so on. Stepping back a bit to see which ones trapped the greater number of boys, I discovered that the most dangerous were those of impurity, disobedience, and pride. In fact, these three were linked to together. Many other traps also did great harm, but not as much as the first two. Still watching, I noticed many boys running faster than others. "Why such haste?" I asked.

"Because they are dragged by the snare of human respect."

Looking even more closely, I spotted knives among the traps. A providential hand had put them there for cutting oneself free. The bigger ones, symbolizing meditation, were for use against the trap of pride; others, not quite as big, symbolized spiritual reading well made. There were also two swords representing devotion to the Blessed Sacrament, especially through frequent Holy Communion, and to the Blessed Virgin. There was also a hammer symbolizing confession, and other knives signifying devotion to Saint Joseph, to Saint Aloysius, and to other Saints. By these means quite a few boys were able to free themselves or evade capture.

Indeed I saw some lads walking safely through all those traps, either by good timing before the trap sprung on them or by making it slip off them if they got caught.

When my guide was satisfied that I had observed everything, he made me continue along that rose-hedged road, but the farther we went the scarcer the roses became. Long thorns began to show up, and soon the roses were no more. The hedges became sun-scorched, leafless, and thorn-studded. Withered branches torn from the bushes lay criss-crossed along the roadbed, littering it with thorns and making it impassable. We had come now to a gulch whose steep sides hid what lay beyond. The road, still sloping downward, was becoming ever more horrid, rutted, guttered, and bristling with rocks and boulders. I lost track of all my boys, most of whom had left this treacherous road for other paths.

I kept going, but the farther I advanced, the more arduous and steep became the descent, so that I tumbled and fell several times, lying prostrate until I could catch my breath. Now and then my guide supported me or helped me to rise. At every step my joints seemed to give way, and I thought my shinbones would snap. Panting, I said to my guide, "My good fellow, my legs won't carry me another step. I just can't go any farther." He did not answer but continued walking. Taking heart, I followed until, seeing me soaked in perspiration and thoroughly exhausted, he led me to a little clearing alongside the road. I sat down, took a deep breath, and felt a little better. From my resting place, the road I had already traveled looked very steep, jagged, and strewn with loose stones, but what lay ahead seemed so much worse that I closed my eyes in horror.

"Let's go back," I pleaded. "If we go any farther, how shall we ever get back to the Oratory? I will never make it up this slope."

"Now that we have come so far, do you want me to leave you here?" my guide sternly asked.

At this threat, I wailed, "How can I survive without your help?"

"Then follow me."

We continued our descent, the road now becoming so frightfully steep that it was almost impossible to stand erect. And then, at the bottom of this precipice, at the entrance of a dark valley, an enormous building loomed into sight, its towering portal, tightly locked, facing our road. When I finally got to the bottom, I became smothered by a suffocating heat, while a greasy, green-tinted smoke lit by flashes of scarlet flames rose from behind those enormous walls which loomed higher than mountains.

"Where are we? What is this?" I asked my guide.

"Read the inscription on that portal and you will know."

I looked up and read these words: "The place of no reprieve." I realized that we were at the gates of Hell. The guide led me all around this horrible place. At regular distance bronze portals like the first overlooked precipitous descents; on each was an inscription, such as: "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, which was prepared for the devil and his angels." (Matthew 25: 41) "Every tree that yielded not good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into the the fire." (Matthew 7: 19)

I tried to copy them into my notebook, but my guide restrained me: "There is no need. You have them all in Holy Scripture. You even have some of them inscribed in your porticoes."

At such a sight I wanted to turn back and return to the Oratory. As a matter of fact, I did start back, but my guide ignored my attempt. After trudging through a steep, never-ending ravine, we again came to the foot of the precipice facing the first portal. Suddenly the guide turned to me. Upset and startled, he motioned to me to step aside. "Look!" he said.

I looked up in terror and saw in the distance someone racing down the path at an uncontrollable speed. I kept my eyes on him, trying to identify him, and as he got closer, I recognized him as one of my boys. His disheveled hair was partly standing upright on his head and partly tossed back by the wind. His arms were outstretched as though he were thrashing the water in an attempt to stay afloat. He wanted to stop, but could not. Tripping on the protruding stones, he kept falling even faster. "Let's help him, let's stop him," I shouted, holding out my hands in a vain effort to restrain him.

"Leave him alone," the guide replied.

"Why?"

"Don't you know how terrible God's vengeance is? Do you think you can restrain one who is fleeing from His just wrath?"

Meanwhile the youth had turned his fiery gaze backward in an attempt to see if God's wrath were still pursuing him. The next moment he fell tumbling to the bottom of the ravine and crashed against the bronze portal as though he could find no better refuge in his flight.

"Why was he looking backward in terror?" I asked.

"Because God's wrath will pierce Hell's gates to reach and torment him even in the midst of fire!"

As the boy crashed into the portal, it sprang open with a roar, and instantly a thousand inner portals opened with a deafening clamor as if struck by a body that had been propelled by an invisible, most violent, irresistible gale. As these bronze doors -- one behind the other, though at a considerable distance from each other -- remained momentarily open, I saw far into the distance something like furnace jaws sprouting fiery balls the moment the youth hurtled into it. As swiftly as they had opened, the portals then clanged shut again. For a third time I tried to jot down the name of that unfortunate lad, but the guide again restrained me. "Wait," he ordered.

"Watch!"

Three other boys of ours, screaming in terror and with arms outstretched, were rolling down one behind the other like massive rocks, I recognized them as they too crashed against the portal. In that split second, it sprang open and so did the other thousand. The three lads were sucked into that endless corridor amid a long-drawn, fading, infernal echo, and then the portals clanged shut again. At intervals, many other lads came tumbling down after them. I saw one unlucky boy being pushed down the slope by an evil companion. Others fell singly or with others, arm in arm or side by side. Each of them bore the name of his sin on his forehead. I kept calling to them as they hurtled down, but they did not hear me. Again the portals would open thunderously and slam shut with a rumble. Then, dead silence!

"Bad companions, bad books, and bad habits," my guide exclaimed, "are mainly responsible for so many eternally lost."

The traps I had seen earlier were indeed dragging the boys to ruin. Seeing so many going to perdition, I cried out disconsolately, "If so many of our boys end up this way, we are working in vain. How can we prevent such tragedies?"

"This is their present state," my guide replied, "and that is where they would go if they were to die now."

"Then let me jot down their names so that I may warn them and put them back on the path to Heaven."

"Do you really believe that some of them would reform if you were to warn them? Then and there your warning might impress them, but soon they will forget it, saying, 'It was just a dream,' and they will do worse than before. Others, realizing they have been unmasked, receive the sacraments, but this will be neither spontaneous nor meritorious; others will go to confession because of a momentary fear of Hell but will still be attached to sin."

"Then is there no way to save these unfortunate lads? Please, tell me what I can do for them."

"They have superiors; let them obey them. They have rules; let them observe them. They have the sacraments; let them receive them."

Just then a new group of boys came hurtling down and the portals momentarily opened. "Let's go in," the guide said to me.

I pulled back in horror. I could not wait to rush back to the Oratory to warn the boys lest others might be lost as well.

"Come," my guide insisted. "You'll learn much. But first tell me: Do you wish to go alone or with me?" He asked this to make me realize that I was not brave enough and therefore needed his friendly assistance.

"Alone inside that horrible place?" I replied. "How will I ever be able to find my way out without your help?" Then a thought came to my mind and aroused my courage. Before one is condemned to Hell, I said to myself, he must be judged. And I haven't been judged yet!

"Let's go," I exclaimed resolutely. We entered that narrow, horrible corridor and whizzed through it with lightning speed. Threatening inscriptions shone eerily over all the inner gateways. The last one opened into a vast, grim courtyard with a large, unbelievably forbidding entrance at the far end. Above it stood this inscription:

"These shall go into everlasting punishment." (Matthew 25: 46) The walls all about were similarly inscribed. I asked my guide if I could read them, and he consented. These were the inscriptions:

"He will give fire, and worms into their flesh, and they may burn and may feel forever." (Judith 16: 21)

"The pool of fire where both the beast and the false prophet shall be tormented day and night forever and ever." (Apocalypse 20: 9-10)

"And the smoke of their torments shall ascend up forever and ever." (Apocalypse 14: 11)

"A land of misery and darkness, where the shadow of death, and no order, but everlasting horror dwelleth." (Job 10: 22)

"There is no peace to the wicked." (Isaias 47: 22)

"There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 8:12)

While I moved from one inscription to another, my guide, who had stood in the center of the courtyard, came up to me.

"From here on," he said, "no one may have a helpful companion, a comforting friend, a loving heart, a compassionate glance, or a benevolent word. All this is gone forever. Do you just want to see or would you rather experience these things yourself?"

"I only want to see!" I answered.

"Then come with me," my friend added, and, taking me in tow, he stepped through that gate into a corridor at whose far end stood an observation platform, closed by a huge, single crystal pane reaching from the pavement to the ceiling. As soon as I crossed its threshold, I felt an indescribable terror and dared not take another step. Ahead of me I could see something like an immense cave which gradually disappeared into recesses sunk far into the bowels of the mountains. They were all ablaze, but theirs was not an earthly fire with leaping tongues of flames. The entire cave --walls, ceiling, floor, iron, stones, wood, and coal -- everything was a glowing white at temperatures of thousands of degrees. Yet the fire did not incinerate, did not consume. I simply can't find words to describe the cavern's horror. "The nourishment thereof is fire and much wood: the breath of the Lord as a torrent of brimstone kindling it." (Isaias 30: 33)

I was staring in bewilderment about me when a lad dashed out of a gate. Seemingly unaware of anything else, he emitted a most shrilling scream, like one who is about to fall into a cauldron of liquid bronze, and plummeted into the center of the cave. Instantly he too became incandescent and perfectly motionless, while the echo of his dying wail lingered for an instant more.

Terribly frightened, I stared briefly at him for a while. He seemed to be one of my Oratory boys. "Isn't he so and so?" I asked my guide.

"Yes," was the answer.

"Why is he so still, so incandescent?"

"You chose to see," he replied. "Be satisfied with that. Just keep looking. Besides, "Everyone shall be salted with fire." (Mark 9: 4

As I looked again, another boy came hurtling down into the cave at breakneck speed. He too was from the Oratory. As he fell, so he remained. He too emitted one single heart-rending shriek that blended with the last echo of the scream that came from the youth who had preceded him. Other boys kept hurtling in the same way in increasing numbers, all screaming the same way and then all becoming equally motionless and incandescent. I noticed that the first seemed frozen to the spot, one hand and one foot raised into the air; the second boy seemed bent almost double to the floor. Others stood or hung in various other positions, balancing themselves on one foot or hand, sitting or lying on their backs or on their sides, standing or kneeling, hands clutching their hair. Briefly, the scene resembled a large statuary group of youngsters cast into ever more painful postures. Other lads hurtled into that same furnace. Some I knew; others were strangers to me. I then recalled what is written in the Bible to the effect that as one falls into Hell, so he shall forever remain. ". . . in what place soever it shall fall, there shall it be." (Ecclesiastes 11:3)

More frightened than ever, I asked my guide, "When these boys come dashing into this cave, don't they know where they are going?"

"They surely do. They have been warned a thousand times, but they still choose to rush into the fire because they do not detest sin and are loath to forsake it. Furthermore, they despise and reject God's incessant, merciful invitations to do penance. Thus provoked, Divine Justice harries them, hounds them, and goads them on so that they cannot halt until they reach this place."

"Oh, how miserable these unfortunate boys must feel in knowing they no longer have any hope," I exclaimed. "If you really want to know their innermost frenzy and fury, go a little closer," my guide remarked.

I took a few steps forward and saw that many of those poor wretches were savagely striking at each other like mad dogs. Others were clawing their own faces and hands, tearing their own flesh and spitefully throwing it about. Just then the entire ceiling of the cave became as transparent as crystal and revealed a patch of Heaven and their radiant companions safe for all eternity.

The poor wretches, fuming and panting with envy, burned with rage because they had once ridiculed the just. "The wicked shall see, and be angry, he shall gnash with his teeth, and pine away. . . " (Psalms 111: 10) "Why do hear no sound?" I asked my guide,

"Go closer!" he advised.

Pressing my ear to the crystal window, I heard screams and sobs, blasphemies and imprecations against the Saints. It was a tumult of voices and cries, shrill and confused.

"When they recall the happy lot of their good companions," he replied, "they are obliged to admit: "We fools esteemed their life madness, and their end without honour. Behold, how they are numbered among the of God, and their lot is among the saints. Therefore we have erred from the way of truth, and the light of justice hath not shined unto us, and the sun of understanding hath not risen upon us." (Wisdom 5:4-6) "We wearied ourselves in the way of iniquity and destruction, and have walked through hard ways, but the way of the Lord we have not known. What hath pride profited us ? or what advantage hath the boasting of riches brought us ? All those things are passed away like a shadow." (Wisdom 5: 7-9)

"Here time is no more. Here is only eternity."

While I viewed the condition of many of my boys in utter terror, a thought suddenly struck me. "How can these boys be damned?" I asked. "Last night they were still alive at the Oratory!"

"The boys you see here," he answered, "are all dead to God's grace. Were they to die now or persist in their evil ways, they would be damned. But we are wasting time. Let us go on."

He led me away and we went down through a corridor into a lower cavern, at whose entrance I read: "Their worm shall not die, and their fire shall not be quenched." (Isaias 66: 24) "He will give fire, and worms into their flesh, and they may burn and may feel forever." (Judith 16: 21)

Here one could see how atrocious was the remorse of those who had been pupils in our schools. What a torment was their, to remember each unforgiven sin and its just punishment, the countless, even extraordinary means they had had to mend their ways, persevere in virtue, and earn paradise, and their lack of response to the many favors promised and bestowed by the Virgin Mary. What a torture to think that they couId have been saved so easily, yet now are irredeemably lost, and to remember the many good resolutions made and never kept. Hell is indeed paved with good intentions!

In this lower cavern I again saw those Oratory boys who had fallen into the fiery furnace. Some are listening to me right now; others are former pupils or even strangers to me. I drew closer to them and noticed that they were all covered with worms and vermin which gnawed at their vitals, hearts, eyes, hands, legs, and entire bodies so ferociously as to defy description. Helpless and motionless, they were a prey to every kind of torment. Hoping I might be able to speak with them or to hear something from them, I drew even closer but no one spoke or even looked at me. I then asked my guide why, and he explained that the damned are totally deprived of freedom. Each must fully endure his own punishment, with absolutely no reprieve whatever. "And now," he added, "you too must enter that cavern."

"Oh, no!" I objected in terror. "Before going to Hell, one has to be judged. I have not been judged yet, and so I will not go to Hell!"

"Listen," he said, "what would you rather do: visit Hell and save your boys, or stay outside and leave them in agony?"

For a moment I was struck speechless. "Of course I love my boys and wish to save them all," I replied, "but isn't there some other way out?"

"Yes, there is a way," he went on, "provided you do all you can."

I breathed more easily and instantly said to myself, I don't mind slaving if I can rescue these beloved sons of mine from such torments.

"Come inside then," my friend went on, "and see how our good, almighty God lovingly provides a thousand means for guiding your boys to penance and saving them from everlasting death."

Taking my hand, he led me into the cave. As I stepped in, I found myself suddenly transported into a magnificent hall whose curtained glass doors concealed more entrances.

Above one of them I read this inscription: The Sixth Commandment. Pointing to it, my guide exclaimed, "Transgressions of this commandment caused the eternal ruin of many boys."

"Didn't they go to confession?"

"They did, but they either omitted or insufficiently confessed the sins against the beautiful virtue of purity, saying for instance that they had committed such sins two or three times when it was four or five. Other boys may have fallen into that sin but once in their childhood, and, through shame, never confessed it or did so insufficiently. Others were not truly sorry or sincere in their resolve to avoid it in the future. There were even some who, rather than examine their conscience, spent their time trying to figure out how best to deceive their confessor. Anyone dying in this frame of mind chooses to be among the damned, and so he is doomed for all eternity. Only those who die truly repentant shall be eternally happy. Now do you want to see why our merciful God brought you here?" He lifted the curtain and I saw a group of Oratory boys -- all known to me -- who were there because of this sin. Among them were some whose conduct seems to be good.

"Now you will surely let me take down their names so that I may warn them individually," I exclaimed. "Then what do you suggest I tell them?"

"Always preach against immodesty. A generic warning will suffice. Bear in mind that even if you did admonish them individually, they would promise, but not always in earnest. For a firm resolution, one needs God's grace which will not be denied to your boys if they pray. God manifests His power especially by being merciful and forgiving. On your part, pray and make sacrifices. As for the boys, let them listen to your admonitions and consult their conscience. It will tell them what to do."

We spent the next half hour discussing the requisites of a good confession. Afterward, my guide several times exclaimed in a loud voice, "Avertere! Avertere!"

"What do you mean?" I asked.

"Change life! "

Perplexed, I bowed my head and made as if to withdraw, but he held me back.

"You haven't seen everything yet," he explained.

He turned and lifted another curtain bearing this inscription: "They who would become rich, fall into temptation, and to the snare of the devil." (1 Timothy 6: 9) (Note: would become rich: wish to become rich, seek riches, set their heart and affections toward riches.)

"This does not apply to my boys! I countered, "because they are as poor as I am. We are not rich and do not want to be. We give it no thought."

As the curtain was lifted, however, I saw a group of boys, all known to me. They were in pain, like those I had seen before. Pointing to them, my guide remarked, "As you see, the inscription does apply to your boys."

"But how?" I asked.

"Well," he said, "some boys are so attached to material possessions that their love of God is lessened. Thus they sin against charity, piety, and meekness. Even the mere desire of riches can corrupt the heart, especially if such a desire leads to injustice. Your boys are poor, but remember that greed and idleness are bad counselors. One of your boys committed substantial thefts in his native town, and though he could make restitution, he gives it not a thought. There are others who try to break into the pantry or the prefect's or economer's office; those who rummage in their companions' trunks for food, money, or possessions; those who steal stationery and books...."

After naming these boys and others as well, he continued, "Some are here for having stolen clothes, linen, blankets, and coats from the Oratory wardrobe in order to send them home to their families; others for willful, serious damage; others, yet, for not having given back what they had borrowed or for having kept sums of money they were supposed to hand over to the superior. Now that you know who these boys are," he concluded, "admonish them. Tell them to curb all vain, harmful desires, to obey God's law and to safeguard their reputation jealously lest greed lead them to greater excesses and plunge them into sorrow, death, and damnation."

I couldn't understand why such dreadful punishments should be meted out for infractions that boys thought so little of, but my guide shook me out of my thoughts by saying: "Recall what you were told when you saw those spoiled grapes on the wine." With these words he lifted another curtain which hid many of our Oratory boys, all of whom I recognized instantly. The inscription on the curtain read: The root of all evils.

"Do you know what that means?" he asked me immediately.

"What sin does that refer to?"

"Pride?"

"No!"

"And yet I have always heard that pride is the root of all evil."

"It is, generally speaking, but, specifically, do you know what led Adam and Eve to commit the first sin for which they were driven away from their earthly paradise?"

"Disobedience?"

"Exactly! Disobedience is the root of all evil."

"What shall I tell my boys about it?"

"Listen carefully: the boys you see here are those who prepare such a tragic end for themselves by being disobedient. So-and-so and so-and-so, who you think went to bed, leave the dormitory later in the night to roam about the playground, and, contrary to orders, they stray into dangerous areas and up scaffolds, endangering even their lives. Others go to church, but, ignoring recommendations, they misbehave; instead of praying, they daydream or cause a disturbance. There are also those who make themselves comfortable so as to doze off during church services, and those who only make believe they are going to church. Woe to those who neglect prayer! He who does not pray dooms himself to perdition. Some are here because, instead of singing hymns or saying the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin, they read frivolous or -- worse yet -- forbidden books." He then went on mentioning other serious breaches of discipline.

When he was done, I was deeply moved.

"May I mention all these things to my boys?" I asked, looking at him straight in the eye.

"Yes, you may tell them whatever you remember."

"What advice shall I give them to safeguard them from such a tragedy?"

"Keep telling them that by obeying God, the Church, their parents, and their superiors, even in little things, they will be saved."

"Anything else?"

"Warn them against idleness. Because of idleness David fell into sin. Tell them to keep busy at all times, because the devil will not then have a chance to tempt them."

I bowed my head and promised. Faint with dismay, I could only mutter, "Thanks for having been so good to me. Now, please lead me out of here."

"All right, then, come with me." Encouragingly he took my hand and held me up because I could hardly stand on my feet. Leaving that hall, in no time at all we retraced our steps through that horrible courtyard and the long corridor. But as soon as we stepped across the last bronze portal, he turned to me and said, "Now that you have seen what others suffer, you too must experience a touch of Hell."

"No, no!" I cried in terror.

He insisted, but I kept refusing.

"Do not be afraid," he told me; "just try it. Touch this wall."

I could not muster enough courage and tried to get away, but he held me back. "Try it," he insisted. Gripping my arm firmly, he pulled me to the wall. "Only one touch," he cornmanded, "so that you may say you have both seen and touched the walls of eternal suffering and that you may understand what the last wall must be like if the first is so unendurable. Look at this wall!" I did intently. It seemed incredibly thick. "There are a thousand walls between this and the real fire of Hell," my guide continued. "A thousand walls encompass it, each a thousand measures thick and equally distant from the next one. Each measure is a thousand miles. This wall therefore is millions and millions of miles from Hell's real fire. It is just a remote rim of Hell itself."

When he said this, I instinctively pulled back, but he seized my hand, forced it open, and pressed it against the first of the thousand walls. The sensation was so utterly excruciating that I leaped back with a scream and found myself sitting up in bed. My hand was stinging and I kept rubbing it to ease the pain. When I got up this morning I noticed that it was swollen. Having my hand pressed against the wall, though only in a dream, felt so real that, later, the skin of my palm peeled off.

Bear in mind that I have tried not to frighten you very much, and so I have not described these things in all their horror as I saw them and as they impressed me. We know that Our Lord always portrayed Hell in symbols because, had He described it as it really is, we would not have understood Him. No mortal can comprehend these things. The Lord knows them and He reveals them to whomever He wills. [END]

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We cannot all be the interpreter of the Bible.
Posted:Nov 16, 2010 3:51 pm
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You see ladies and gentlemen, the problem with ideas like Sola Scripture (that Christians depend on the Bible alone as the sole authority) is that the Bible is a book. The good book requires interpretation. Now some would argue that the interpreter of the Bible is the Holy Spirit speaking through "Spirit lead individuals".



This idea sounds nice at first, until everyone buys their own copy of the Bible from wall-mart and starts declaring their own doctrines. Each of them different from others who each claim to have the "Holy spirit leading me to these truths".

I am afraid this kind of thought process is exactly what fractures Christianity today into different sects. What is interesting to note also is that while many swear the "Holy Spirit" is guiding them, they claim a sort of personal infallibility.

So while non-Catholic Christians (not all but some to be sure) make the accusation that the Catholic Church is NOT infallible in it's interpretations of scripture, they have no problem whatsoever establishing that their own interpretation of the Bible is spirit lead.


And how do they know it's the Holy Spirt? Why fuzzy feelings of course. If you yourself disagree with their view that their interpretation of the Bible is wrong, then they discern that you "Must not have the spirit and have more learning to do!". So if you don't agree with someones view, it must be you who is wrong and not themselves that are misguided.


Does anybody here find that a little...I don't know....absurd???? or am I the only one?? Either you believe, that each and every Christian individual has authority to interpret the Bible via the "Holy Spirit" or you believe what I believe, as Saint Peter stated, that no prophecy of scripture ever came about by private interpretation.

That implies the need for a public interpretation, one offered by the Christian Church. Which of course in my opinion is obviously Catholic.


The point of this blog is to express my frustration with the notion that "I have the correct understanding of the scriptures because the Holy Spirit guides me".

I need a little bit more then that to go on since everyone is claiming that. How do I know that the Holy Spirit is guiding you??? Because you say that it is??? I mean come on!

That is why I read history of the early Christians, as well as study the traditions of the early Church. With so many false teachings out there LIKE Sola Scriptura all based on someones PRIVATE interpretation we go around in circles.


This is why we have a Church people. Because otherwise we just end up each doing our own thing. That disorder is not of God but of the devil.


1 Corinthians 1:10

Now I beseech you, brethren, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfected together in the same mind and in the same judgment.


Think about whether or not each individual Christian should be interpreting the Bible for themselves and how far that's gotten Christians. Just food for thought people. Think about it. Please.
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No relationship with the Church? No relationship with Christ.
Posted:Nov 2, 2010 6:14 pm
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There is a new modern take on Christianity that I find disturbing.

I refer to it as new, because it is new, in fact...you will not find even a single reference from the early church fathers or apostles that even remotely mimics this idea.


Really it's astounding that many Christians fail to understand that Jesus actually did organize a structure to his Church.

I've stated this many times again, but it's always worth explaining yet again in the hopes that some might realize the error of this modern heresy. For discussion purposes I'll refer to it as:



"The Personal relationship with Jesus and forget organized religion" heresy.


1. "It's all about a personal relationship with Jesus, not an organized religion"

Now, whenever people say this to you, they seem to either be unwilling to defend this thought, or they just plain cannot.

Yep. No single scriptural reference, or historical references are to be found by these people that support their claim of a Church that has no actual organization to it.

But they will swear God is telling them that they have the right idea.

Usually when I ask honestly how they came to this startling epiphany I suddenly am met with great disdain, disdain over the most simple of questions.

Where does the bible teach the personal relationship with Christ that excludes the very Church he established in the new testament?

The confusion begins for these "Christians" The moment they start viewing the relationship with Jesus, as being seperate from their relationship with the Church.

The scripture states that we are "One Body in Christ". The "organized" Church of the New Testament, is not viewed as some sort of social order that is seperate from Jesus, the Bible refers to it as being Christs very body.

There are many scriptural references that point out, that those who disobey the teachings of the Church are disobeying Jesus. The bible makes it very clear the ORGANIZED Church filled with Bishops, Deacons and Priests are to be obeyed because Jesus has ordained them and given them special authority.

The anti-organized Church/religion establishment (which thinks they are Christian) never bother to ask themselves this one simple question:

"If I'm right and we do not need organized Churches, why did Jesus make an organized Church with Bishops, deacons, Priests, and Apostles?"


Some will then argue with me "Well they get corrupt! so now we don't have to listen to them!"

As if individuals wont become corrupt once they "cast off" the chain of organized Christianity.


Once again. Lets use our thinking caps, Jesus established order to his Church. Then the Apostles clearly outline those who do not obey the Church are no followers of Jesus Christ.

Read the scripture verse for yourself. It provides clear insight as to the role the Church plays in Christians relationship with Jesus Christ.

Matthew 18:17

"If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector."



Now, obviously one is not required to obey religious authority when it contradicts Christ. Obviously I understand all of that.

The point I am simply trying to make, is that Christ did establish a Church, it is organized and it does have authority.

You want a good relationship with Christ? Start by obeying him. Follow his Church.

God bless.




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Christians who support abortion leaders betray Christ.
Posted:Nov 12, 2008 12:25 am
Last Updated:Oct 28, 2009 2:01 pm
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The election is over with. We have elected a new President. What I find very interesting and very sad about this election as I flipped through the channels..was that the economy was the number 1 issue Americans are concerned with.

Many Americans describe themselves as "Christian". Yet they seem to vote completely opposite of Christian values. I even have read polls that showed that a over 50 percent of Catholics voted in favor of electing Senator Obama to the Presidency.

It saddens me to know that so many Catholics (as well as Protestants) do not seem to realize that we are living in the time of great murder in our country that has surpassed the Nazi Prison camps of World War 2.

For all of you who are reading this who felt that having a Presidential candidate who has clearly stated his support for pro-abortion judges, and still voted for him knowing that, I hope you each examine your conscience. Catholic and Protestant alike.

It is a social sin of great severity. Our economy (MONEY) Is not as big an issue as the slaughtering of unborn without mercy. I urge any of you who did vote for a pro-abortion candidate whether the President or otherwise, to repent of your sin. God is mercyful and believe me it was a big sin to commit.

Even banning gay marriage was not as important as banning abortion. We know have a President that will ensure that the evil agenda of abortion will continue.

Many of you who supported this new President elect will try to justify your vote for him, by pointing out other social issues that bring hardship to Americans.

This will be done in an attempt to somehow justify supporting a man who supports abortion. I to often have had "christian" try to justify it by mentioning other problems or the talk of war commited by the incumbent administration (you cannot even compare the loss of life in Iraq to the overwhelming deaths of each year in the United States).

Once again I re-iterate, if you supported Senator Obama in this election you have not voted "christianly", I realize no candidate is perfect, however that is no excuse for justifying supporting pro-abortion candidates.

This election goes to show that once again, so many people claim to be Christian, but when it came to the polls, they voted for men who support initiatives that go directly against the Christian religion.

Time for change? No. This is not going to be time for change my Obama supporting "Christians"

It's time for penance.
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Church was built on Peter the Rock.
Posted:Jun 21, 2008 9:35 am
Last Updated:Jul 5, 2009 9:36 am
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Many of my brothers and sisters in Christ are under the false assumption that Jesus built the Church on Peters "confession of faith" Not on Peter himself. I now will do my best on this post to explain how the one true Church was built on the foundation of Peter and the Apostles. Christ of course is the builder of the Church, and he is the wise man who built his house on a rock.(Peter).

The non-Catholic interpretation is that Jesus was not referring to Peter but to Peters confession. It always baffles me when people tell me this
because as we are about to see, there is nothing in this verse that even hints that Jesus will build his Church on Peters confession of faith.

The scriptures are so clear on this that I see this as one of the few times there should not even be any argument over what it means.


To understand this will take patience on part of the reader, because these explanations cannot be dumbed down because of the significance of this truth.

Mark 3:16; John 1:42 ‒ Jesus renames Simon "Kepha" in Aramaic which literally means "rock."

So for this point we learn one very important thing, Peters very name means rock. There is no question that Peters name means rock. Protestants try to argue that Jesus changed his name to "a small stone".

Jesus said in Aramaic, you are "Kepha" and on this "Kepha" I will build my Church. In Aramaic, "kepha" means a massive stone, and "evna" means little pebble.

Some non-Catholics argue that, because the Greek word for rock is "petra", that "Petros" actually means "a small rock", and therefore Jesus was attempting to diminish Peter right after blessing him by calling him a small rock.

To make this easier to understand for those who are not familiar with this distinction, the New Testament was written in the greek language. However, Jesus Christ spoke Aramaic. So when he used the word rock he was speaking in a language that used a word that meant big rock. Not little
rock as many on the BC thread try to imply with poor sources from the internet.

Matt. 16:18 - Jesus said in Aramaic, you are "Kepha" and on this "Kepha" I will build my Church. In Aramaic, "kepha" means a massive stone, and "evna" means little pebble. Some non-Catholics argue that, because the Greek word for rock is "petra", that "Petros" actually means "a small rock", and therefore Jesus was attempting to diminish Peter right after blessing him by calling him a small rock. Not only is this nonsensical in the context of Jesus' blessing of Peter, Jesus was speaking Aramaic and used "Kepha," not "evna." Using Petros to translate Kepha was done simply to reflect the masculine noun of Peter.

Moreover, if the translator wanted to identify Peter as the "small rock," he would have used "lithos" which means a little pebble in Greek. Also, Petros and petra were synonyms at the time the Gospel was written, (meaning those 2 words were used interchangebly all the time) so any attempt to distinguish the two words is inconsequential. Thus, Jesus called Peter the massive rock, not the little pebble, on which He would build the Church. (You don’t even need Matt. 16:18 to prove Peter is the rock because Jesus renamed Simon “rock” in Mark 3:16 and John 1:42!).

Now, I realize that is quite a bit of information to follow. Take your time reading this slowly and carefully think about this. It actually took me quite a bit of time to understand these concepts so if you got this the first time around, your much smarter then I was. (grammer was never my strong point in school anyway!)

Now, if you look at the verse closely it says "You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church"

Some Christians actually try to argue that Christ is referring to himself as the rock in this sentence. But that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Think about this for a minute please, Jesus actually says this: "You are Peter (rock) and upon this rock I shall build my Church!"

It's clear Jesus is speaking directly to Peter. He would not word things in a way that would have confused us as to what he actually was trying to say.

If Jesus wanted to point out that he is referring to himself, he would have worded it like this: "You are Peter, and upon myself I shall build my Church!"

Thats what most Protestants are trying to make this verse say. Which it clearly doesn't. But thats how there actually interpreting it.

Matt. 16:18-19 ‒ to further rebut the Protestant argument that Jesus was speaking about Peter’s confession of faith (not Peter himself) based on the revelation he received, the verses are clear that Jesus, after acknowledging Peter’s receipt of divine revelation, turns the whole discourse to the person of Peter: Blessed are “you” Simon, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to “you,” and I tell “you,” “you” are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church. I will give “you” the keys to the kingdom, and whatever “you” bind and loose on earth will be bound and loosed in heaven. Jesus’ whole discourse relates to the person of Peter, not his confession of faith.

So lets run by this again ok?

Jesus identifies who PETER is. The same way Peter identifies who Christ is.

One guy says "Your the Christ!'

And Jesus says "Your the rock"

Isn't that amazing? It makes perfect sense that theirs a point where Peters confession of faith ends. Then Christs confession that Peter is rock on whom he will build the Church begins.

So once again lets sum up the things the Catholic Church teaches about this verse.

#1 Christ is not referring to Peters confession of faith, there is no mistaken this from grammatical reasoning that Jesus is talking to Peter, not talking about himself as non-Catholics claim.

#2 The argument that Peter was a "small stone" is a complete and unreliable argument for the simple fact that Jesus does earlier in the Bible refer Simon as Rock. Not little rock when he uses the word Kepha. (If Peter was a small rock the Bible would use the word Evna but it doesn't)

Lastly, I wish to make the point that Christ is also the Rock. That just because Peter is the Rock does not mean Christ (God) cannot be the rock of our faith. Christ is the very rock of our faith. However, the earthly Church had an actual foundation, that foundation was Peter and the Apostles on whom Jesus built the Church.

Jesus did not build a Church based on Peters confession of faith. He built a Church on actual living people.

Thank you for your time. For those who always thought Peters name meant a small stone, and who always thought that Jesus was referring to himself, I hope you found this explanation helpful in understanding why Catholics don't support the Protestant interpretation.


Moving forward, many Christians today have never heard the writings of the early Church Fathers. I highly recommend all Christians have a chance to read about what the early Church taught and how they were interpreting scripture.

Remember, they lived very close and some actual lived during the time of the Apostles. These men were not the least bit confused that Jesus built the Church on the foundation of Peter and the Apostles.

Now thats something worth thinking about isn't it?

Take care and God bless you all.
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Why Catholics Worship on Sunday? Tradition.
Posted:Jun 20, 2008 6:37 pm
Last Updated:Nov 5, 2010 10:46 am
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As a Catholic some of my brothers and sisters in Christ do not understand
why the Catholic Church celebrates the sabbath on Sundays. Some believe it is because the Church simply changed the day of worship from Saturday, to Sunday. However, the explanation is quite different from what non-Catholics have said on this issue.

The Catholic Church never changed the day of the sabbath, rather it was Jesus Christ and the Apostles who founded this tradition.

Isaiah 1:13

"Bring your worthless offerings no longer, Incense is an abomination to Me. New moon and sabbath, the calling of assemblies-- I cannot endure iniquity and the solemn assembly."

Firstly, in the book of Isaiah God begins to show that he is not pleased with the Sabbath. The Catholic Church realizes that the old ways of the Jews was not sufficient nor pleasing to God.

This is one starting example of how God never intended for us to maintain all the traditions of the Jewish people.

Another thing the Catholic Church considers also is that the Sabbath was given, not to mankind, but specifically to Israel alone as a special covenant sign between her and God. (Ex.31 :13 ,17)

Also, if a person were to examine the New Testaments closely, as many scholars have, nowhere in the New Testament are Christians commanded to worship or meet on the Saturday sabbath. Instead what we learn from the scriptures is that the Christians would meet on the first day of the week. Which was Sunday.

1 Corinthians 16 (Christians are giving money for the collection on the first day of the week.)

Acts 20 : 7 (Paul preached to Christians at Troa whose practice was to meet to break bread on the first day of the week)

John 20: 19,26 (Jesus after his resurrection met with the disciples on the first day of the week. Sunday.)

Romans 14: 15,6 (When Paul is discussing which day to meet, he does not say that we must meet on the Saturday Sabbath. He says "Let every man be
fully persuaded in his own mind."

SDAs claim that the Catholic Church after Constantine in 320 AD changed the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday. This simply is
not true. There are at least ten citations from the Early Church Fathers from 90 to 300 A.D who all say that the practice of Christians everywhere was to meet on Sunday, not the Jewish Saturday Sabbath. There is one thing that is certain of the Early Church, and that is that it met on Sundays. Among them were the following leaders in the early Christian Church.

St. Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch (110)

St. Justin Martyr (100-165)

Epistle of Barnabas (120-150)

St. Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons 178

Bardiasan (born 154)

St. Cyprian, Bishop of Carthage (200-25

Eusebius of Caesarea (315)

Peter, Bishop of Alexandria (300)

Didache of the Apostles (70-75)

Epistle of Pliny (112)

Col. 2:16-17 shows conclusively that the sabbath law is no longer binding:

"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."

So based on this verse alone, it simply is not fair for any denomination of Christianity (Seventh Day Adventists mostly) to chastise the Catholic Church for not observing the Jewish Saturday Sabbath.

Matt. 28:1; Mark 16:2,9; John 20:1,19- the Gospel writers purposely reveal Jesus' resurrection and appearances were on Sunday. This is because Sunday had now become the most important day in the life of the Church.

This idea that Jesus did not rise from the dead on Sunday is simply not the view of the early Christian Church. While there are some that would try to contest this, this fact remained uncontested (as many of the early Christian doctrines) until 1,600 yrs after the Church is established.

Acts 20 - this text shows the apostolic tradition of gathering together to celebrate the Eucharist on Sunday, the "first day of the week." Luke documents the principle worship was on Sunday because this was one of the departures from the Jewish form of worship.

Heb. 4:8-9 - regarding the day of rest, if Joshua had given rest, God would not later speak of "another day," which is Sunday, the new Sabbath. Sunday is the first day of the week and the first day of the new creation brought about by our Lord's resurrection, which was on Sunday.

If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death--whom some deny, by which mystery we have obtained faith, and therefore endure, that we may be found the disciples of Jesus Christ, our only Master." Ignatius, To the Magnesians, 9:1 (A.D. 110).

This is yet another shinning example of why Catholics practice worship on Sundays. Saint Ignatius one of the original Christian Fathers mentions no longer observing the Jewish Sabbath, but Living int he observance of the Lords Day (Sunday).

"The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mk. 2:27)



In her book Cosmic Conflict, published in 1844, Seventh-Day Adventist prophetess Ellen White argues that the early Christian Church became apostate at the time of the decree of Constantine (p. 551‒554). This opinion is refuted by current scholarship even from Seventh-Day Adventists. S. Bacchiocchi, a leading sabbatarian SDA scholar, writes in From Sabbath to Sunday (1997) that the change in worship days began around the year 60 in Rome but was not generally accepted until after the decree of Hadrian in 135 (p. 303‒321).

There is a glaring inconsistency in Mrs. White’s belief that the church apostatized in 321: She accepts specific doctrines approved by the Catholic Church after the date of alleged apostasy. Three examples will suffice to make the point: (1) the canon of the New Testament was approved in 393 at the Council of Hippo; (2) the doctrine of the Trinity was defined in 325 at the Council of Nicea; and (3) the doctrine of the true manhood true Godship of Jesus was defined in 451 at the Council of Chalcedon.

Sabbatarians hold that the Sabbath is part of the decalogue, which is the immutable law of God. The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that the ten commandments are "fundamentally immutable" (no. 2072). However, the Church considers the Sabbath to have two aspects: an essential part to worship the Lord on one day per week and a ceremonial part as to the exact day.

I hope this helps some of you understand the position of the Catholic Church. The decision to worship on Sunday is a tradition that
was handed down by the early Church to which the Catholic Church still maintains to this very day as it did 2,000 yrs ago. Whether people
agree that it is right is another matter of course. However this is overwhelming evidence that proved the Early Christians seemed to know
that the Lord's day was seen as Sunday in the New Covenant.
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Will people condemned to hell stay there eternally?
Posted:Jun 16, 2008 12:21 am
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On the Big Church blogs I read a blog (you know who you are) that people who are condemned to hell will not stay there eternally. I personally believe once a person is condemned to Hell thats it. I think that eternal damnation will happen to all those who have rejected Christ's mercy by choosing through free will to disobey him in their earthly lives.

What are your thoughts on this?
People in Hell will suffer eternal damnation, along with the Devil and his fallen Angels.
People in Hell shall suffer only temporarily, then they will endure eternal salvation in Heaven.
People in Hell will suffer till they are BURNED UP and NOT ever go to Heaven.
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Constantine did not start Catholic Church.
Posted:May 2, 2008 3:54 am
Last Updated:Oct 30, 2009 8:57 am
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When I think of many of the silly things some people believe about the Catholic Church, one of the most absurd claims is that Constantine himself started up the religion I am currently following.

Now, lets be fair here , I know Protestantism has a habit of lying to their own congregations about how the Catholic Church came about, I respect this propaganda because they need their membership to believe it to keep their congregations going and their paychecks steady. So I can be a realist in that sense.

However, the facts are these, Constantine didn't just wake up one morning, and say he is going to start a Catholic religion and everyone is going to follow it and be Catholic.

Sorry , thats not what happened. Lets use a little common sense today shall we my friends?

#1 If it were true Constantine DID in fact start the Catholic religion, that religion still would have had to exist in some form prior to Constantine requiring it to be the state religion. These things wouldn't just happen overnight as some poorly informed Protestants think they did.

#2 The early Church fathers wrote about the Catholic Church over 100 years before Constantine himself was even in power. In fact, their were already Catholic Popes (some of them were martyred) before the Emperor was even the Emperor.

#3 Constantine converted to the Catholic faith, he never started the whole damn thing, all he did was stop the execution of Christians that was taken place at the time, making it safe for them to worship in the open. The man certainly didn't come up with the idea (although I know many Protestants on BC here wish he did)

Saying Constantine started the Catholic Church, sounds as stupid to me, as someone saying Captain Jack Sparrow was the first President of the United States. It sounds nice, but it's not even true in the slighest.

I hope my Protestants brothers and sisters find this educational, and this helps further disprove one lie that I know many Protestants believe about Catholicism, I'm just setting the record straight.

Also. The following early Church Fathers listed were all Catholics, and all existed before the time of Constantine.

The Apostle John was actually still alive at the same time as a Catholic Pope. I'll get into more detail at a later date when I have more time.

Here is a few names of the early Church Fathers who were Catholics, and existed before Constantine. (I know right, how did these Constantine sayers miss this??)

St. Ignatius of Antioch who lived around 50-107AD

St. Polycarp of Smyrma who lived around 69-165AD

Pope St. Clement I of Rome who lived around 60-99AD

I think that given the fact Pope Clement was alive about 200 yrs before Constantine already disproves the ignorant notion that Catholicsm was started up by some Roman Emperor. Now go and tell your friends the next time they say Constantine made the Catholic religion, what you learned today!

God bless!
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Catholic Church never changed 10 commandments.
Posted:Apr 23, 2008 10:48 am
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I hear this one ALL the time, so I thought I'd set the record straight. Many times many people have posted how the big bad evil star wars like intergalactic empire (The Catholic Church) changed the 10 commandments so they could worship Statues! and the Virgin Mary instead of God!

This is a very absurd claim (as being a Catholic I know we don't worship statues or Mary). I

t gets old like a broken record having to repeat the lies that certain Protestants tell their congregations. However, today I am going to set the record straight on exactly why the 10 Commandments of the Catholic Church do not APPEAR to be the same as the ones the Protestant Church uses.

The 7th day adventist group is one that constantly uses this criticism as well as one that we changed the say of the Sabbath. But I will get into that subject on a later date.

The Catholic Church never "Changed" any part of the commandments. Rather, the difference between how Catholics and Protestants number the commandments stems from the issue of how we interpret the prohibition on idolatry in Exodus 20:17 and Deuteronomy 5:6-8.

Lets look at how the Catholic Church numbers the commandments.

I. Thou shalt have no strange God's before me.

II. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

III. Keep holy the sabbath.

IV. Honor your father and your mother.

V. Thou shalt not kill

VI. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

VII. Thou shalt not steal.

VIII. Thou shalt not bear false witness.

IX. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife.

X. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors goods.

Protestants however number them differently, resulting in a discrepancy:

I. Thou shalt have no strange God's before me.
II. Thou shalt not carve graven images.
III. Thou shalt not take trhe name of the Lord thy God in vain.

IV. Keep holy the sabbath.
V. Honor your father and your mother.
VI. Thou shalt not kill.
VII. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
VIII. Thou shalt not steal.
IX. Thou shalt not bear false witness.
X. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, and thou shalt not covet they neighbor's goods.

The first commandment is against idolatry of any kind, including statue worship.

So it's senseless to divide it, as Protestants do, into two separate commandments. To worship a graven image as an idol is the exact same sin as "having strange gods" before God himself.

The other discrepancy arises when Protestants incorrectly combine two different sins into a single commandment.

"Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's wife, and thou shalt not covet they neighbors goods".

The problem here is that coveting your neighbors wife is in the category of the sin of lust, while coveting his goods is in the category of theft.

The Catholic Church condemns as idolatry any form of statue worship or superstition. It also recognizes that there is legitimate religious use for statues and icons that is NOT offensive to God.

I will get into that in a later blog. For right now, just know that it is not the Catholic Church that changed the commandments.
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