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Annoying, Obnoxious, Ego Centric, Offensive, Vicious, Rude Jerks! People are jerks! No doubt about it. We have vicious tongues. We can be devious, manipulative, ego centric, bitter, offensive, obnoxious, rude and crude. Not exactly fruits of the spirit! And yet, I can be all of that and more! Does it make me any lesser of a human being, a of God created in His image before a God who is a respecter of no persons? Does it mean He loves me less? I find it somewhat strange that I seem to actually get along with so many people who not only not get along with each other at BC that other really nice people find to be ummm somewhat troublesome in nature. Okay, I tried to tip toe there...Please understand I mean no disrespect to anyone here but these are the ones every thinks are jerks. But I have always been somewhat of a jerk magnet, hence the ex-husband! I guess it might be because I still have many rough edges myself. (Not to mention my elbows!) And I have witnessed some of the most unlikely people do some very Christ like things behind the scenes that no one else sees. But because some how we only see them for a few minutes on a blog or in a chatroom and we take them at their worst so we figure, hey this guy/gal is a total jerk and sometimes that grows into a hostility between His . And yes, there are people I certainly do not get along with. I know many of you take me with a grain of salt and rightfully so at times! And there are actions by many that I don't condone in the least but their actions are their issue and not mine. I know that I am supposed to focus on my relationship with Jesus and not someone else's who is on a different path that I. I can tell you this, Jesus loved me when I at my worst... when I was devious, manipulative, ego centric, bitter, offensive, obnoxious, rude and crude. And I have read of God using a donkey for His will to be done... and isn't that truly what it's all about... His will be done! I hear a lot of talk about His amazing unconditional love and truly it is... and as followers of Christ, we are to emulate Him in multiplying that amazing unconditional love toward others. Who did Jesus show His love to during His days here on earth? Who did He break bread with? Who did He have true relationships with? Who did He hang out with? Jesus loved the unloveable and hung out with scum just like me, or at least I used to be before I knew Him. Let's be truthful, tax collectors were the jerks of the day back when Jesus was walking the earth in the flesh. And, if I am to say I am indeed a follower of Jesus Christ and want His will be done then I must try harder to love the unloveable and look beyond petty differences. I know a lot of people like to witness to others in some form or another. They like going out and planting seeds to the unsaved. And truly that's a good thing. Well, here in the Bible belt with a church on every corner, you are not going to find someone who will respond with, "Jesus who?" Most of the folks in my neighborhood will respond that they have a home church and know Jesus rather well. You can go door to door in the safe neighborhoods and talk to folks about Jesus and you may end up leading someone to God. But truly, how many of us are going to go out alone and talk to street people about Jesus? I'm talking going up to a group of tough gang members in the street, a group of bikers, a bruised cover dirty in cheap tattered clothing!?! Even if you have the balls, are they going to listen to you or rob you? Maybe that's why some of us still have some rough edges. We all weren't saved into sameness! I believe each of us was created uniquely and perfectly imperfect for a reason. After all, if we are all so perfect then we could have lived up to the Law of the OT and not need Jesus so very much! I know I sure do need Him!!! Maybe, just maybe God uses people with some rough edges to reach others with rough edges. All I truly know is that He loves each of us despite ourselves, even when we are jerks! 
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Ms Overcaffeinated you are correct......There are jerks who are plain old jerks taking their cues from the devil himself 
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I've spent my life among a cross-section of groups. Been with the dregs and the princes. No matter how I look or sound, I've found that no one from either group usually listens to me if I insult them. One can be rough around the edges yet not insult people. And I've found that I've never been able to insult anyone into agreeing with me. I don't know how effective a Christian can be if he or she tries to insult or humiliate people into agreeing with them. I know some Christians have tried to use a lot of guilt over the years, with limited success, but I don't know of any Christians who have lead any souls to Jesus by insulting or humiliating them. It's just deliberate disrespect and it turns people off. Still, there are some folks for whom it is just their nature to be insulting. A little bit of it may be humorous. But for most of us, it's also just our nature to dislike and distrust people who do that. I love the insulting rude crude and obnoxious etc. people of the world. I'm just disinclined to want to have much to do with them.
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2/27/2012 3:28 am |
Great Post Caff!!!
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2/27/2012 10:30 am |
Ms Overcaffeinated you are correct......There are jerks who are plain old jerks taking their cues from the devil himself Or are you thinking of some jerks you really hate yourself and are glad "the devil himself" gives them cues? You are a lost one, Pretender. Did the devil make you use your fake pics?
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2/27/2012 10:42 am |
Good thoughts, Over. People-pleasers suck eggs bigtime. Give me a rebel everytime. Jesus loved 'em. Too many pretend they are what they are not and act out nothing on a stage of emptiness. "...so that God may be all in all" (1 Cor. 15:28 ).
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2/27/2012 11:13 am |
And, concerning "perfection," what Christ alludes to in 'be pefect as Heavenly Father is perfect' is to be perfect in love. We don't know who we're really dealing with throughout the day. We cannot judge anyone good or bad. We can only observe behavior and decide whether to take action or not, depending on what that behavior is. So often good is hiding behind some very bad behavior...and vice versa. The only good response is a loving response. However, we can't confuse love with 'being nice.' Otherwise, you may think you're standing in America and suddenly see a maple leaf on a flag when you look up. Okay, but seriously, we deal with imperfection perfectly. Don't judge anything/one good or bad. For instance, there is a chatter named Exodus24 here who has been hounding me for months and months. I don't judge him good or bad, but ridiculous? Of course! I just don't stoop to his/her level of accusation and slander, but simply use his/her arguments against him/herself. It can be quite comical; even though Exodus, and his part-time sidekick, Freewayryder, think they are rather serious (which only makes it funnier!! ).We can simply observe what is occurring and discern the right course of action. The wrong course of action, of course, is (never expedient!) always wrong and has the eventual wrong consequences. Jody refers to something that is positionally true, that we are God's workmanship, which can only be perfect - because it's God's work. He fails to acknowledge the other side which, as Pauls says, "wages war" in our members. Yet, these are the things we readily observe in our lives if, as Jody rightly suggests, we aren't being where we need to be: close to Him listening to His words and considering His ways.
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Uh, if this is a true statement, why are you laughing about the power "the devil himself" has over someone? Is something really funny about that? Wouldn't you think it was sad or, at least, unfortunate? Are you buddies with the devil and laugh at his games? Or are you thinking of some jerks you really hate yourself and are glad "the devil himself" gives them cues? You are a lost one, Pretender. Did the devil make you use your fake pics?
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You are correct.........
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And, concerning "perfection," what Christ alludes to in 'be pefect as Heavenly Father is perfect' is to be perfect in love. We don't know who we're really dealing with throughout the day. We cannot judge anyone good or bad. We can only observe behavior and decide whether to take action or not, depending on what that behavior is. So often good is hiding behind some very bad behavior...and vice versa. The only good response is a loving response. However, we can't confuse love with 'being nice.' Otherwise, you may think you're standing in America and suddenly see a maple leaf on a flag when you look up. Okay, but seriously, we deal with imperfection perfectly. Don't judge anything/one good or bad. For instance, there is a chatter named Exodus24 here who has been hounding me for months and months. I don't judge him good or bad, but ridiculous? Of course! I just don't stoop to his/her level of accusation and slander, but simply use his/her arguments against him/herself. It can be quite comical; even though Exodus, and his part-time sidekick, Freewayryder, think they are rather serious (which only makes it funnier!! ).We can simply observe what is occurring and discern the right course of action. The wrong course of action, of course, is (never expedient!) always wrong and has the eventual wrong consequences. Jody refers to something that is positionally true, that we are God's workmanship, which can only be perfect - because it's God's work. He fails to acknowledge the other side which, as Pauls says, "wages war" in our members. Yet, these are the things we readily observe in our lives if, as Jody rightly suggests, we aren't being where we need to be: close to Him listening to His words and considering His ways. Hypocrite! You do judge....Claiming I'm false.....Attacking Canadians every chance you get -we know why you do this,,,STALKER!!.....Barging into someone's blog solely to have a go at me.....Why in tarnation would Ms Overcaffeinated give a hoot about your perpetual fights with everyone?? Get a grip child......Are you that deluded Sonickname/RueHue/fUnneCessary/Mitch??? The folks here are far more intelligent than you credit them.........The only scripture you 'know' is what comes from your cult........You are the epitome of a false prophet...............Now leave these good folks alone and pick up a real Bible....
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And, concerning "perfection," what Christ alludes to in 'be pefect as Heavenly Father is perfect' is to be perfect in love. We don't know who we're really dealing with throughout the day. We cannot judge anyone good or bad. We can only observe behavior and decide whether to take action or not, depending on what that behavior is. So often good is hiding behind some very bad behavior...and vice versa. The only good response is a loving response. However, we can't confuse love with 'being nice.' Otherwise, you may think you're standing in America and suddenly see a maple leaf on a flag when you look up. Okay, but seriously, we deal with imperfection perfectly. Don't judge anything/one good or bad. For instance, there is a chatter named Exodus24 here who has been hounding me for months and months. I don't judge him good or bad, but ridiculous? Of course! I just don't stoop to his/her level of accusation and slander, but simply use his/her arguments against him/herself. It can be quite comical; even though Exodus, and his part-time sidekick, Freewayryder, think they are rather serious (which only makes it funnier!! ).We can simply observe what is occurring and discern the right course of action. The wrong course of action, of course, is (never expedient!) always wrong and has the eventual wrong consequences. Jody refers to something that is positionally true, that we are God's workmanship, which can only be perfect - because it's God's work. He fails to acknowledge the other side which, as Pauls says, "wages war" in our members. Yet, these are the things we readily observe in our lives if, as Jody rightly suggests, we aren't being where we need to be: close to Him listening to His words and considering His ways. Hate seeps out of your pores,,,we all see it......
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2/28/2012 12:39 am |
You talking about love now?? Hate seeps out of your pores,,,we all see it......So, who am I (have  stalked? Give names or shall we only see more accusation? lol. The women who are afraid of me are just coming out in numbers, aren't they? lol No. Only one, sometimes, two, but always the nag, lol. And are YOU the one who sent Freeway on the wild goose chase to some place in San Diego called "Aurora"? Good lead, there, "counselor." You apprently have 'the facts' about this but either didn't share them with Freewaylaid or, if those are the facts, you's a dummy! I'm sorry you feel hate. You should feel nothing. But, yes, I'm sure you feel hate. And, it's all yours, buddy. Do whatever you want with it. You can use it against me, but like i keep telling you, it will come right back atcha.  So, knock yourself out (some more ).
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2/28/2012 1:04 am |
What is not slander, Freewilly? You can't say something is 'not slander' and expect anyone knows what the hell you're talking about. What is not slander? What "documented truth" do you want to submit (this time)? You just cast aspersions, Woman. That's all you do and are interested in. So, you're Cindy Lauper now and bringing out everyone's true colors? Well, she said "and that's why I love you" when she saw their true colors. But, i guess you're speaking of different true colors that you hate and love to bring out. You're a witch, you know that? lolYou have a knack for being tired and bored. No it's not called discernment. If you had discernment, you wouldn't find yourself bothered about the secrets of people in BC and trying to exploit their not-so-lovely true colors That's called gossip-mongering.lol documented truth...what about undocumented truth? is that good, too? lame loland why do you and Doozy always do the "mytch/sonic/funnecessary/" label thing? are you trying to confuse others or just staying confused yourselves? lol I just got an image of Doozy and Freerangechicken dancing around holding up picket signs with all of my handles wrote on them, lol You don't know who you're talking to yet? Just one person. I know it's too much for both of you, but keep trying. Knock yourselves out (again). It's funny what "Amen" stands for these days. You get an F- for abusing religious affirmations, Freeway. Go volunteer at a mission and clean up your act, Woman. You are too busy in here and too unemployed to be busier in here and make this your hobby!
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2/28/2012 2:50 am |
There should really be a fine for using terms loosely, but, in your case, we'll just call your use of them BAGGY.
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Thanks for proving my point. LOL. I couldn't have planned it better especially with your sidekick chiming in. lol. So, who am I (have stalked? Give names or shall we only see more accusation? lol. The women who are afraid of me are just coming out in numbers, aren't they? lol No. Only one, sometimes, two, but always the nag, lol. And are YOU the one who sent Freeway on the wild goose chase to some place in San Diego called "Aurora"? Good lead, there, "counselor." You apprently have 'the facts' about this but either didn't share them with Freewaylaid or, if those are the facts, you's a dummy! I'm sorry you feel hate. You should feel nothing. But, yes, I'm sure you feel hate. And, it's all yours, buddy. Do whatever you want with it. You can use it against me, but like i keep telling you, it will come right back atcha. So, knock yourself out (some more ).
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Sonick, Freeway, Exodus - Thank you each for visiting my post on the subject of loving the unloveable. If you wish to continue bickering off the topic, please do so on your own blogs. And I know you all do.... alllllll thhhhhheee tiimmmeeee! If I can be real honest here... Most of us here find it tedious, depressing and much like a broken record. Why not post about what God has done for you lately instead of what your brother or sister has done against you? Isn't Jesus better than all of that?! Why waste your energy when it could be used to His glory? 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 says "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. " God bless each of you!
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Jody - I have been considering what you posted for the past couple of days. I really wanted to digest it all before posting. While I do not find in my Bible where it says He created us in His "Perfect" image and likeness, I, however, agree with you that God is perfect and He didn't create junk. I also agree that while God see us as perfect, we often don't. I think you hit the nail on the head with that one as I guess that's where I am at. I don't yet see it. I know I am a "new creation" in Christ but perfect? Whoa.... that's a tall order to fill and I just don't see myself as that yet. Perhaps that's one of the whispers of the enemy that I need to rebuke. In ladies studies, there is always some sort of analogy to a cracked vase or copper pot. I can see Him continuing to remove the dross from me but I am not all shiny yet. However, His fingerprints are all over me! I know that He continues to rebuild me (as promised in Isaiah 61) and I know He will complete a good work in me (Phil 1:6). I know He is perfecting my faith through trials (James 1). Sometimes I get the tenses confused. I mean we know God has already won the battle over the enemy in the end but yet we are still battling in present time. I guess the whole seeing myself as perfected is like that. I know I am a new creation and I have surrendered all to Him but maybe I just think I am a bigger work in progress than I am to Him. Thank you very much for your comments Jody. You have given me much to consider and pray about. God bless you!
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Ms Overcaffeinated you are correct......There are jerks who are plain old jerks taking their cues from the devil himself
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I've spent my life among a cross-section of groups. Been with the dregs and the princes. No matter how I look or sound, I've found that no one from either group usually listens to me if I insult them. One can be rough around the edges yet not insult people. And I've found that I've never been able to insult anyone into agreeing with me. I don't know how effective a Christian can be if he or she tries to insult or humiliate people into agreeing with them. I know some Christians have tried to use a lot of guilt over the years, with limited success, but I don't know of any Christians who have lead any souls to Jesus by insulting or humiliating them. It's just deliberate disrespect and it turns people off. Still, there are some folks for whom it is just their nature to be insulting. A little bit of it may be humorous. But for most of us, it's also just our nature to dislike and distrust people who do that. I love the insulting rude crude and obnoxious etc. people of the world. I'm just disinclined to want to have much to do with them. I have also found that thumping people over the head with my Bible and screaming at them how they are going to rot in hell isn't very productive either. However, food works well! Barbecue first is one of my mottos! Thanks for your comments Gavin!
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Thank you for visiting my blog! God bless you!
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And, concerning "perfection," what Christ alludes to in 'be pefect as Heavenly Father is perfect' is to be perfect in love. We don't know who we're really dealing with throughout the day. We cannot judge anyone good or bad. We can only observe behavior and decide whether to take action or not, depending on what that behavior is. So often good is hiding behind some very bad behavior...and vice versa. The only good response is a loving response. However, we can't confuse love with 'being nice.' Otherwise, you may think you're standing in America and suddenly see a maple leaf on a flag when you look up. Okay, but seriously, we deal with imperfection perfectly. Don't judge anything/one good or bad. For instance, there is a chatter named Exodus24 here who has been hounding me for months and months. I don't judge him good or bad, but ridiculous? Of course! I just don't stoop to his/her level of accusation and slander, but simply use his/her arguments against him/herself. It can be quite comical; even though Exodus, and his part-time sidekick, Freewayryder, think they are rather serious (which only makes it funnier!! ).We can simply observe what is occurring and discern the right course of action. The wrong course of action, of course, is (never expedient!) always wrong and has the eventual wrong consequences. Jody refers to something that is positionally true, that we are God's workmanship, which can only be perfect - because it's God's work. He fails to acknowledge the other side which, as Pauls says, "wages war" in our members. Yet, these are the things we readily observe in our lives if, as Jody rightly suggests, we aren't being where we need to be: close to Him listening to His words and considering His ways. Perhaps I just need to shut up and listen more to Him! Thank you for your comments.
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No, I don't think that part was kind and was doing my best to ignore comments on both sides going after the other. I don't agree with the name calling either. But your squabble is not my squabble. In fact, it is none of my business. And I have no clue what your fight is about nor do I want to know. Free, I have always respected you but it seems you do not respect me when I asked you to direct it back to your blogs. Not one of your comments was in regard to the topic at hand. I understand you feel as though you have to protect everyone from this guy but many of us are quite capable of taking care of ourselves. Personally, I think all three of you hijacked my blog in some manner or form. Free, maybe if each of you would just call a truce and quit posting about one another, the problem would go away. But if you three want to keep it going on your blogs, go for it but on MY BLOG, one more accusational post about the other on here by any of you three, I will start deleting posts and banning y'all from my blog. I have never had to ban anyone from my blog before and it saddens me to do so now but I also want this blog to be one where anyone can come and be uplifted. If anyone wants to read your squabble, they can read it on your blogs.
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There is no reason to ban Exodus. He comes to my blogs a lot and has always been very nice and polite. The other person has stopped posting here at the moment but if he posts here off topic again, he will be banned. As for you, you didn't post on the topic to start with and you just keep going on and on... I think we all know what you have to say. You won't shut up about it! And now you are trying to manipulate me by using guilt to let you keep going on and on! You don't think God sees what is going on? Do you think God cannot handle it? Quit putting Him in a box! ENOUGH ALREADY! Let God be God. Believe me, His judgement is a lot more extreme than anything you or I could dish out. Let Him handle it. He knows what is truth and what is not! And I am not banning you for revealing truth but because you can't seem to respect my blog when I asked nicely. You are starting to sound like you walked out of Proverbs 27:15 and I know that you are not like that but that's what people are starting to see. Myself included!
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2/29/2012 12:50 pm |
Define "perfection" according to what ---God--- wants. (open to all to reply to ) And if you refer to Jesus and "be therefore perfect as He is perfect"- you will prove yourselve(s ) to be utterly IGNORANT OF GOD and what He wants in the first place. "Love" is a distant unnecessary second- what is first- according to THE BIBLE?. Think first- then prove you know what Jesus was sent to point to. Giv'erAwhirl. 
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2/29/2012 3:42 pm |
Your ALL Judgmental expletives; look at the stupid expletives you write about. Nothing here resembles anything Godly. Fact is, whats demonstrated here; i son the order of a Cult, same pack minded dellsuions; who cannot tolerate any outside interference from anyone; nor any challanges to the pack mind belief systems. God does not inhabit online chat rooms filled with the Unholy and unsaved; who continue to demonstrate their seriously flawed and irrational thinking, and mental illness.
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Your ALL Judgmental expletives; look at the stupid expletives you write about. Nothing here resembles anything Godly. Fact is, whats demonstrated here; i son the order of a Cult, same pack minded dellsuions; who cannot tolerate any outside interference from anyone; nor any challanges to the pack mind belief systems. God does not inhabit online chat rooms filled with the Unholy and unsaved; who continue to demonstrate their seriously flawed and irrational thinking, and mental illness. I did understand that you believe God doesn't go anywhere there are unsaved or unholy people. But yet He sent His son to do just that. Please don't put God into a box in thinking He can only hang out in churches and your home. God is so much bigger than that!
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