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roadmapp 58M
28 posts
12/26/2009 6:03 pm
Evenly Yoked?


Someone please define this phrase from a biblical standpoint.Now I know it has to with a team of animals which is (two of them) usually of equal power and stamina to pull a plow or heavy object.Now... who has the authority to judge or discern who is evenly yoked together.God?.The couple? Is it measured by spritual maturity? Who deserving of each other? To me God would be accurate judgment in this case not to say as humans we are somewhere in the area of accuracy? To me and to find a mate evenly matched would be hard to find and always would not be perfectly even.... just close.Some individuals judgement of being evenly yoked can be way off I've found out and is judged on who's better or more or less deserving of each other.

Hisglory77
(Byron )
64M

12/26/2009 11:06 pm

    Quoting  :

Yeah you are going to get some feed back, but not what you may think.

If the wife is more spiritually mature then the husband, then that means she has a greater ability to submit to his leadership, and if his leadership is not well developed, then she has a great oppertunity to help him develop by her own walk.

On the other hand, if the husband is a great deal ahead of the wife, and especially in areas of submission to the Lord, and\or those the Lord gives to lead, then it's a lot more difficult for a husband who is walking in love to lead his wife because she won't let him.

The equally yolked thing mainly means that both husband and wife are saved, and walk in the same faith. Meaning a Catholic and Methodist will not likely do well together, nor would a Penticostal and a Baptist. It's very important to be on the same page of spiritiual beliefs. Not as much that one is right and the other wrong, as much as both are accountable to the same spiritual leadership.

Maturity of itself is a pretty small matter. However level and direction of spiritual commitment is paramount. I very much agree with you on both going the same direction.
I can work a marriage with a woman who is at a different level of spiritual maturity then me, especially if she's ahead of me. But if her calling is an entirely different direction then mine, or if she only wants to attend church 2 or 3 times per year, it's not going to work. Earlier this year I got out of such a relationship. I still love her, but I can't marry her.

Byron

Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.


Hisglory77
(Byron )
64M

12/26/2009 11:15 pm

toliveforHIM is right about the two yolk eggs. I frequently get them from a local farmer. Generally the two yolks are smaller, but is still about the same amount of yolk as the larger one yolk eggs.

Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.


frootz 52F
100 posts
12/27/2009 4:14 am

Furthermore, if you look at the Biblical account of that sizzling romance between Samson, who had a keen eye for women of other faith. He eventually teamed up with Delilah, i'm not sure if they were married, but when her kinsmen appealed to her to find out Samson's strength, she defied the laws of love's logic (to side with your husband/partner and show your loyalty) and instead, she accepted the financial reward in order to find out Samson's secret which God had instructed him to tell no one about. He disobeyed God, and he perished. Not just that, the moral of that is, the 'otherness' of faith, it leads one to destruction because, as one 'to live for him' said previously, the purpose is different. She was loyal to her kinsmen and their faithlessness, and he was Loyal to God, who gave him victory just before he popped his own clogs.
Another example is like the type of fuel you put in your car, you either run it on diesel, or petrol. If you mix the two, your journey probably will not be able to be sustained even as far as pulling away from the petrol station.
Hope this makes sense.
oh, i will add that people will have different levels of faith, i see it all the time among Christian couples, just as people have different personalities, so our approach to faith is a lifelong journey. We each get there in the end, in as far as we've been in line with God's purpose for us, so...hope u keep asking, it shows you're seeking God, which is a great starting point, stay blessed!
x


Gordy505 57M

12/27/2009 8:52 am

"Evenly Yoked" has zero to do with "Marriage". Jesus sent out the guys 2x2 to do a SPECIFIC job for Him. It's all about the JOB and why it's important NOT to have a "kindergartener "yoked" with a "college graduate" as dealing with the JOB Jesus gave people to DO. But since people ASSUME it deals with "a man and a woman and MARRIAGE" - once again SATAN WINS and the entire issue revolves around some BOGUS requirement about MARRIAGE that has DESTROYED so many good TEAMS OF WORKERS FOR GOD'S KINGDOM based upon THEIR PERSONAL DESIRES rather than Christ's COMMANDS TO CARRY HIS YOKE PERSONALLY.
Ya BLIND JUDGES- YA SAY EVENLY YOKED- in MARRIAGE- and if that's the case- YA CAN NEVER BE CHRIST'S BRIDE. Keep tellin ya- THE RELIGION HAS REDEFINED WHAT CHRIST MEANT AND IT KILLS YOUR ABILITY TO KNOW CHRIST AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE MEANT. Buncha Looney birds.


frootz 52F
100 posts
12/27/2009 11:01 am

Wrong Gordie - The life of Samson and what happened to him is a clear indicator of how God feels we should approach love, marriage and Faith. Paul teaches (i can't seem to locate Bible verse but i used it in another post to talk about the same issue) that if you marry someone of another faith, or who is without faith, it is not a problem unless the person tries to dissuade you from you faith, if they want to leave you because of it, you are to let them get on with it.
Then, in the Scriptures of King Solomon we read that he had many wives, he married Queen Sheba, who was from Africa somewhere, and if i read / understand correctly, she may have been of a different belief.
The book of the life of Solomon concludes that he fell short of God's full blessing because of his disobedience regarding being persuaded to partake in other beliefs' rituals and worshipping.
Its not very nice to call people loony birds (maybe you've had too much turkey my friend?).
Look at Corinthians 13 it says among other things "Love is never rude".
See?
D.


Hisglory77
(Byron )
64M

12/27/2009 3:30 pm

Gordy, you are sooo busted this time. Yes, this reference is referring to marriage. Specifically and exactly. It has nothing at all to do with Jesus sending out his disciples in pairs, but it has to do with the pairing of a man and woman.

If you look at the Greek, (you do know the Bible's N.T. was first written in Greek. Of coarse you do, you're not that stupid), you will find the English word combination of 'unequally yoked together' is a compound Greek word never used any other place.

The Greek word is 'heterozugeō' made up of 'heteros' defined by Strongs as: other or different: - altered, else, another, some strange;
and 'zugos' defined as: to join, especially by a coupling, that is, (literally, a law or obligation); also through sexual union.

Sorry Gordy, I don't think the disciples were bound to their evangelizing team mates by law or obligation, but a married couple is; and I'm pretty sure the disciples didn't have sex with each other, but a married couple does.
There is nothing strange, altered, or different about evangelizing with a team mate who is at a different point spiritually then you. (in fact that is the most effective way to teach someone how to evangelize), but an unbeliever is strange, altered, or different from the believer. In fact Proverbs makes many references to 'strange women', meaning unbelievers.
In Ezra and Nehemiah is an account where the believers returning from exile put away their strange (unbelieving) wives.

God does not like his people getting married to unbelievers, although there have been a few exceptions, such as Rahab, Ruth, Esther, and Hosea, but by and large, He strongly prefers believers marries believers.

The Bible is absolutely God's Word. It means what it says and says what it means, and it is given the same authority as if God appeared to you personally and spoke.
This time "THE RELIGION HAS REDEFINED...YOUR ABILITY TO KNOW CHRIST AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE MEANT."

To know the Bible is to know Jesus Christ, which is to know the Father. Jesus IS The WORD, and He only did His Father's will.
Now, why don't you do the will of the Father, learn His WORD, and stop the religious nonsense that you propagate.

Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.


Gordy505 57M

12/28/2009 8:20 am

    Quoting frootz:
    Wrong Gordie - The life of Samson and what happened to him is a clear indicator of how God feels we should approach love, marriage and Faith. Paul teaches (i can't seem to locate Bible verse but i used it in another post to talk about the same issue) that if you marry someone of another faith, or who is without faith, it is not a problem unless the person tries to dissuade you from you faith, if they want to leave you because of it, you are to let them get on with it.
    Then, in the Scriptures of King Solomon we read that he had many wives, he married Queen Sheba, who was from Africa somewhere, and if i read / understand correctly, she may have been of a different belief.
    The book of the life of Solomon concludes that he fell short of God's full blessing because of his disobedience regarding being persuaded to partake in other beliefs' rituals and worshipping.
    Its not very nice to call people loony birds (maybe you've had too much turkey my friend?).
    Look at Corinthians 13 it says among other things "Love is never rude".
    See?
    D.
Shall we revisit the Samson story to discover if indeed Samson thought she was his WIFE- or simply put- a dalliance/fornication partner that he knew he was not supposed to be engaged in/with...
The Samson story has ZERO to do with "equally yoked" as you well know. It has nothing at all to do with the Gospel Jesus was sent to teach. To imagine otherwise is to TAKE YER EYES OFF JESUS AND TRY TO JUSTIFY EVIL BY PROCLAIMING JESUS YOKE IS ALL ABOUT MARRIAGE WHEN IT IS SPECIFICALLY NOT ABOUT MARRIAGE.
Ya can point to Paul and HIS crap all ya like- I will still stand here and POINT YA RIGHT BACK TO JESUS AND HIS YOKE EVERY TIME.
As for Samson "falling short of God's full blessing"- How did the story end? Something about Samson asking God one last time to help him make it right in the end since HE WAS BETRAYED BY A STRUMPET. And what were the results of his request?
Kind of a sobering thought ain't it- that comparing Samson to a CHRISTIAN reveals how EVIL CHRISTIANS ARE. And yeah- only LOONIE BIRDS with FALSE DOCTRINE for "food" would ever equate Samson with "evenly yoked" and think God don't know the difference. Sorry frootz- ya need to jump onto a different bandwagon.


Gordy505 57M

12/28/2009 8:35 am

    Quoting Hisglory77:
    Gordy, you are sooo busted this time. Yes, this reference is referring to marriage. Specifically and exactly. It has nothing at all to do with Jesus sending out his disciples in pairs, but it has to do with the pairing of a man and woman.

    If you look at the Greek, (you do know the Bible's N.T. was first written in Greek. Of coarse you do, you're not that stupid), you will find the English word combination of 'unequally yoked together' is a compound Greek word never used any other place.

    The Greek word is 'heterozugeō' made up of 'heteros' defined by Strongs as: other or different: - altered, else, another, some strange;
    and 'zugos' defined as: to join, especially by a coupling, that is, (literally, a law or obligation); also through sexual union.

    Sorry Gordy, I don't think the disciples were bound to their evangelizing team mates by law or obligation, but a married couple is; and I'm pretty sure the disciples didn't have sex with each other, but a married couple does.
    There is nothing strange, altered, or different about evangelizing with a team mate who is at a different point spiritually then you. (in fact that is the most effective way to teach someone how to evangelize), but an unbeliever is strange, altered, or different from the believer. In fact Proverbs makes many references to 'strange women', meaning unbelievers.
    In Ezra and Nehemiah is an account where the believers returning from exile put away their strange (unbelieving) wives.

    God does not like his people getting married to unbelievers, although there have been a few exceptions, such as Rahab, Ruth, Esther, and Hosea, but by and large, He strongly prefers believers marries believers.

    The Bible is absolutely God's Word. It means what it says and says what it means, and it is given the same authority as if God appeared to you personally and spoke.
    This time "THE RELIGION HAS REDEFINED...YOUR ABILITY TO KNOW CHRIST AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE MEANT."

    To know the Bible is to know Jesus Christ, which is to know the Father. Jesus IS The WORD, and He only did His Father's will.
    Now, why don't you do the will of the Father, learn His WORD, and stop the religious nonsense that you propagate.
WHat is more important? 100% focus on JESUS or marriage? What is more important? The Gospel Jesus brought or MARRIAGE?
Where does Jesus EVER say you can divide your attention away from HIS DETAILS and become so engrossed in such a relationship as marriage instead of total fealty to HIM and HIS COMMANDS? WHERE DOES JESUS EVER SAY TO GIVE INTO YOUR OWN DESIRES AND WISHES AND RUN OFF TO PURSUE THEM INSTEAD OF OBEYING HIM PERFECTLY?

Point to JUST ONE INSTANCE WHERE JESUS SAID IT'S OK TO LEAVE HIS SIDE AN DIVIDE YOUR ATTENION AWAY FROM HIS COMMANDS.
You bring me PAUL- I'll crucify HIM and stand with JESUS instead. You go piss on JESUS an believe in Paul all ya want. He is NOT Jesus. Get yer min off of SIN and back on JESUS ALONE there "hisglory77". Paul's tripe is just that- TRIPE. Jesus would NEVER AGREE WITH IT. That's why He said TAKE UP YOUR CROSS AND FOLLOW ME. Ya either SACRIFICE WHAT YOU WANT IN FAVOR OF JESUS ALONE- or ya get to hear the words "DEPART FROM ME YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY FOR I NEVER KNEW YA."
Don't you EVER come in my face with your JUSTIFICATION OF SIN and try to tell me GOD SAID IT'S OK. Ya ignorant loser. Paul says it's OK to deviate from JESUS TEACHINGS. IS THAT WHAT GOD TOLD HIM TO TEACH? DO YA THINK????? Yer INCREDIBLY DECIEVED THERE HISGLORY77.


frootz 52F
100 posts
12/28/2009 9:17 am

oh dear, the turkey went straight to your head! gobble gobble yer brainz ina wobble!!!


Hisglory77
(Byron )
64M

12/29/2009 7:10 pm

    Quoting Gordy505:
    WHat is more important? 100% focus on JESUS or marriage? What is more important? The Gospel Jesus brought or MARRIAGE?
    Where does Jesus EVER say you can divide your attention away from HIS DETAILS and become so engrossed in such a relationship as marriage instead of total fealty to HIM and HIS COMMANDS? WHERE DOES JESUS EVER SAY TO GIVE INTO YOUR OWN DESIRES AND WISHES AND RUN OFF TO PURSUE THEM INSTEAD OF OBEYING HIM PERFECTLY?

    Point to JUST ONE INSTANCE WHERE JESUS SAID IT'S OK TO LEAVE HIS SIDE AN DIVIDE YOUR ATTENION AWAY FROM HIS COMMANDS.
    You bring me PAUL- I'll crucify HIM and stand with JESUS instead. You go piss on JESUS an believe in Paul all ya want. He is NOT Jesus. Get yer min off of SIN and back on JESUS ALONE there "hisglory77". Paul's tripe is just that- TRIPE. Jesus would NEVER AGREE WITH IT. That's why He said TAKE UP YOUR CROSS AND FOLLOW ME. Ya either SACRIFICE WHAT YOU WANT IN FAVOR OF JESUS ALONE- or ya get to hear the words "DEPART FROM ME YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY FOR I NEVER KNEW YA."
    Don't you EVER come in my face with your JUSTIFICATION OF SIN and try to tell me GOD SAID IT'S OK. Ya ignorant loser. Paul says it's OK to deviate from JESUS TEACHINGS. IS THAT WHAT GOD TOLD HIM TO TEACH? DO YA THINK????? Yer INCREDIBLY DECIEVED THERE HISGLORY77.
Gordy, for a fake profile, you come pretty close to being believeable as a real person full of themselves and their own self-righteouness. But I'll play along, especially since I already got you on the run.
What kind of goofy juice are you on? You actually think Paul stands opposed to Jesus?
This is the ONLY person to whom Jesus directly appeared after His assension. This is the one to whom God gave the greatest revelations of all the other prophets, including John the Baptist of whom Jesus said there was no one greater who was born of women. This is the man who endured more persecution for Jesus then anyone else who ever lived. How many times have you been falsly thrown in jail for the Gospel? How many times have you been stoned? (with rocks not weed) You would so quickly discount him as one who didn't preach Jesus.

1Co 3:1 And I, brothers, could not speak to you as to spiritual ones, but as to fleshly, as to babes in Christ.

1Co 3:4 For while one says, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are you not carnal?
1Co 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom you believed, even as the Lord gave to each?
1Co 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase.
1Co 3 So then neither is he who plants anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase.

1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given to me, as a wise master builder, I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let every man be careful how he builds on it.
1Co 3:11 For any other foundation can no one lay than the one being laid, who is Jesus Christ.

Gal 1:6 I marvel that you so soon are being moved away from Him who called you into the grace of Christ, to another gospel,
Gal 1 which is not another, but some are troubling you, and desiring to pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from Heaven preach a gospel to you beside what we preached to you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, and now I say again, If anyone preaches a gospel to you beside what you have received, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:10 For now do I persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I yet pleased men, I would not be a servant of Christ.
Gal 1:11 And, brothers, I make known to you the gospel which was preached by me, that it is not according to man.
Gal 1:12 For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it except by a revelation of Jesus Christ.


The Word Paul taught was given to him by revelation from Jesus Christ personally. You claim to follow Jesus and have your eyes on Him, yet you judge as a heretic the very man Jesus entrusted with the entire Gentile sector of the body of Christ. You can question who is Paul all you want, my question is who are you?
Here are a few of those revelations Jesus gave to Paul about marriage.

1Co 7:9 But if they can't manage their desires and emotions, they should by all means go ahead and get married. The difficulties of marriage are preferable by far to a sexually tortured life as a single.

1Co 7:28 But there's certainly no sin in getting married, whether you're a virgin or not. All I am saying is that when you marry, you take on additional stress in an already stressful time, and I want to spare you if possible.

1Co 7:36 If a man has a woman friend to whom he is loyal but never intended to marry, having decided to serve God as a "single," and then changes his mind, deciding he should marry her, he should go ahead and marry. It's no sin; it's not even a "step down" from celibacy, as some say.
1Co 7:37 On the other hand, if a man is comfortable in his decision for a single life in service to God and it's entirely his own conviction and not imposed on him by others, he ought to stick with it.
1Co 7:38 Marriage is spiritually and morally right and not inferior to singleness in any way, although as I indicated earlier, because of the times we live in, I do have pastoral reasons for encouraging singleness.


We are even warned by Jesus through Paul exactly how we will know the seducing spirits

1Ti 4:1 But the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and teachings of demons,
1Ti 4:2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, being seared in their own conscience,
1Ti 4:3 forbidding to marry, saying to abstain from foods which God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creation of God is good, and nothing to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving.


Hits a little too close to home doesn't it? No wonder you don't like Paul. But we can find Scriptures NOT written by Paul that blesses y marriage.

Heb 13:4 Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled, but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

Pro 5:18 Let your fountain be blessed, And rejoice with the wife of your youth.
Pro 5:19 As a loving deer and a graceful doe, Let her breasts satisfy you at all times; And always be enraptured with her love.

Pro 18:22 He who finds a wife finds a good thing, And obtains favor from the LORD.

Pro 31:10 Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies.

Gen 2:18 The LORD God said, "It isn't good for the man to live alone. I need to make a suitable partner for him."

Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.


Yeah Gordy, let's talk about the Lord's commandments to us.
Be fruitful and multiply.
Rejoice with the wife of your youth.
Marriage is honorable in all.
He who finds a wife finds a good thing, And obtains favor from the LORD.
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

And one more parting Scripture, also not written by Paul.

Psa 37:4 Delight yourself also in the LORD, And He shall give you the desires of your heart.

This is a two way saying, but it's always read into as meaning He will give you the things you desire. While that is true, He also gives you the desires themselves. Which can and does include a mate to marry.

Now you want to play the documentation game, and I gave you plenty. Now I challenge you. Show me a Scripture anywhere, where Jesus speaks against marriage. Show me where Jesus commands us to NOT marry.

Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.


Gordy505 57M

12/30/2009 10:11 am

And who confirmed that "Jesus appeared" to Paul as Paul ALONE claimed? Do we have ANY OTHER WITNESSES (Let it be established with 2 or more ) to that event recorded ANYWHERE or do we just take Paul's word for it as DEMANDED BY PAUL AND BY THE CATHOLiCS WHO HAD AND HAVE AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE BEHIND SUCH A "STORY"? Does Paul stand in opposition to the teachings of JESUS? Of course He does. And yup. You suck right into EVERYTHING BUT THE PURITY AND SIMPLICITY OF JESUS OWN STUFF. It's why YOU can't STOP SINNING. Ya never follow JESUS ALONE- but trot off after any and all OTHER TEACHERS.
So here we are once again- I say "JESUS ONLY AND ONLY JESUS" and HIS TEACHINGS ALONE- and you demand that I pollute Jesus' stuff with FALSE DOCTRINES FROM PAUL and or ANYBODY ELSE.
So ask yerself. Since you POLLUTE JESUS' STUFF with all sorts of OTHER RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE- Does all of that POLLUTION get you to where Jesus said HIS STUFF WOULD TAKE YA? Hmmmmm? Nope. Yet ya piss on JESUS STUFF and try to shove a SINNER down my throat. Think I'm EVER gunna let ya do that? Hmmmmm?
So once again- since you DEMAND that PAUL IS THE CORRECT TEACHER- and FOLLOWING HIS STUFF WILL MAKE YOU SIN FREE AS JESUS SAID YOU WOULD BE IF YOU FOLLOWED HIM (Jesus )- TESTIFY THAT YOU ARE AS JESUS HIMSELF SAID YOU WOULD BE IF YOU FOLLOWED ONLY HIS TEACHINGS. Or are you one of those SINNERS who will stand there eyeball deep in SIN and tell me that JESUS DIED FOR YOU AND PAID FOR YOUR CONTINUED SINS...? Since you DEMAND THAT I BELIEVE YOU AND FOLLOW YOU INTO PAUL'S CRAP- WILL I COME OUT JUST LIKE YOU- EYEBALL DEEP IN SIN AND BELIEVING PAUL INSTEAD OF JESUS? Hmmmm?
Yer just too stupid to understand what Jesus said- cuz yer too busy following a BLIND false shepherd named Paul.
Again- IF YOU FOLLOW PAUL'S STUFF- DOES IT MAKE YOU SIN FREE AS JESUS SAID YOU MUST BE? Hmmmmmm? That is the whole idea ISN'T IT??????? STOP SINNING AND BE PERFECT IN GOD'S EYES. Either that - or you can SIN ALL YA WANNA AND CLAIM THAT GOD DON'T MIND ANYMORE IF YA SIN AND SIN AND SIN- but go repent after ya spit in God's face repeatedly.
Yeah That's why Jesus ain't a CHRISTIAN- He would NEVER clAIM SIN IS OK IF YA REPENT LATER. SO whom will I follow- YOU or JESUS? Hmmmmm? Are ya EXACTLY WHAT GOD SAYS TO BE- or still a sinner who thinks JESUS would follow PAUL instead of TRUTH. Give it up there hisglory77- yer not a follower of JESUS- yer a follower of a SINNER whom has ya DITCHED and ya will never get to where Jesus said ya must go. Until ya get rid of the trash ya been fed by Paul.
But then again... TESTIFY that YOU ARE SIN FREE AND EXACTLY THE WAY JESUS SAID YOU WOULD BE. Just Jesus... No one else. Jesus only- ONLY JESUS. Can ya TESTIFY THAT? Well CAN YA?
Do you even KNOW what JESUS SAID YOU WOULD BE DOING AND BE LIKE IF YA FOLLOWED ONLY HIM??? SO has THAT SET OF PROMISES COME TRUE FOR YA???? Or are ya too busy SINNING to even CARE? Yup. Too busy- as proved right here in this blog. Yer a SINNER and you'll NEVER QUIT. Ain'tchya?
EVENLY YOKED. All ya gotta DO is find a partner who SINS THE SAME WAY YOU DO if ya THINK it's about marriage. How hard could THAT be? All CHRISTIANS ARE SINNERS. NONE OF YOU ARE FOLLOWING JESUS SINCE YER ALL SINNERS. Yet ya clAIM yer NOT to be evenly yoked with "unbelievers"... while ya LIE about yer own black souls trying to convince others yer some kind of special. SINNERS ALL. Follow JESUS ALONE and that will MAKE you HIS BRIDE and that is the ONLY "Evenly Yoked" relationship available. No other is possible- since COMPROMISE is necessary in EVERY MAN/WOMAN RELATIONSHIP. With JESUS- there IS NO COMPROMISE- ONLY COMPLETE UTTER SURRENDER.
Did Jesus command ya not to marry? Nope. What HE said is that IF YOU WANT THAT MORE THAN HIM_ YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF HIM. But it don't matter yer a sinner who won't quit by your own confession. "Iniquity". "Depart". Simple to understand ain't it? Think yer gunna sneak past JESUS when He specifically sai ya WON'T? Hmmmmm? Who told ya ya can SIN ALL YA WANNA AFTER YA KNEW TRUTH? Nobody? Then FIGGER IT OUT. SATAN OWNS YA. How ya gunna fix it NOW SINCE YA HAVE NO SACRIFICE LEFT FOR CONTINUED SINS? As I sai- marriage itself is done away with in heaven... Check out Rev14vs 1-5 and understand why that is something special... see that word "defiled" used there? Ummmmm... well... I'm not so sure- but I think once ya get yer cherry back- yer supposed to keep it. "New life" and all don't chya know. "Old passes away- ALL THINGS become new. That or the religion is wrong about those details too. "Evenly Yoked"... If it ain't JESUS- it ain't ever gunna be even. Get it? Dummy.


Hisglory77
(Byron )
64M

12/30/2009 10:25 pm

Gordy, you'd make a good polititian. You got a knack for side stepping issues, and presenting bold faced lies as the truth.
Of coarse there were other witnesses to Paul's conversion. The account is recorded in Acts chapter 9; which was written not by Paul, but by Luke, you know, the noted doctor who wrote the Gospel according to Luke.
There were several witnesses with Paul when this happened. It can be documented through history that he met Ananias in Damascus, at the house of Judas, located on the street called Straight.
So much for your sad accusation that only Paul himself claims his testimony.

And true to your copy cat methodology of the accuser of the brethern, you try to make out that Paul presents himself as a means to salvation, when he never made such a claim. Paul was always very precise in saying that Jesus is the ONLY way to salvation, and that He is the one to follow. Paul admits that he was nothing more then a sinner who was forgiven, just like the rest of us.

But you still haven't told me how many times you went to jail for proclaiming Jesus. How many lashes you have received. How much persecution you have endured for the Gospel. No. All I ever got from you is how sin-less you are. Just like Luk 18:10-14;

You also still have not been able to refute the Greek word usage in the Bible about the equally yolked passage, but then, why are you concerned with that verse? It was written by Paul, a man you have proclaimed as a sinner, and presumed to judge.

I noticed you don't quote any Scripture at all. Obviously you don't believe the Bible, which Jesus Himself said to follow and believe.
So without the Bible, what do you have? Religion and lot's of it.
Yet you point your finger at others and yell, "Religion!" without realizing that you got three fingers pointing back at you.

May you have a happy new year, and I do hope you find Salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, the only way to the Father.

Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.


Gordy505 57M

12/31/2009 7:07 pm

    Quoting Hisglory77:
    Gordy, you'd make a good polititian. You got a knack for side stepping issues, and presenting bold faced lies as the truth.
    Of coarse there were other witnesses to Paul's conversion. The account is recorded in Acts chapter 9; which was written not by Paul, but by Luke, you know, the noted doctor who wrote the Gospel according to Luke.
    There were several witnesses with Paul when this happened. It can be documented through history that he met Ananias in Damascus, at the house of Judas, located on the street called Straight.
    So much for your sad accusation that only Paul himself claims his testimony.

    And true to your copy cat methodology of the accuser of the brethern, you try to make out that Paul presents himself as a means to salvation, when he never made such a claim. Paul was always very precise in saying that Jesus is the ONLY way to salvation, and that He is the one to follow. Paul admits that he was nothing more then a sinner who was forgiven, just like the rest of us.

    But you still haven't told me how many times you went to jail for proclaiming Jesus. How many lashes you have received. How much persecution you have endured for the Gospel. No. All I ever got from you is how sin-less you are. Just like Luk 18:10-14;

    You also still have not been able to refute the Greek word usage in the Bible about the equally yolked passage, but then, why are you concerned with that verse? It was written by Paul, a man you have proclaimed as a sinner, and presumed to judge.

    I noticed you don't quote any Scripture at all. Obviously you don't believe the Bible, which Jesus Himself said to follow and believe.
    So without the Bible, what do you have? Religion and lot's of it.
    Yet you point your finger at others and yell, "Religion!" without realizing that you got three fingers pointing back at you.

    May you have a happy new year, and I do hope you find Salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, the only way to the Father.
And yer still a sinner who will never quit. An yup. I do believe the BIBLE IS ALL ABOUT "stop sinning". How hard can that BE? Hmmmmmmm?
So yup. come beat on the messenger some more while he tells ya to STOP SINNING- and use ALL SORTS OF SCRIPTURES TO PROVE THAT SATAN OWNS YOU AND YOU CAN'T STOP SINNING. Idiot.
Yer fingers argument does not apply in the least- unless ya used it to salve you filthy conscience. Funny how sinners always do that. "YA CAN'T BE AS JESUS SAID TO BE- CUZ NO ONE ELSE IS". Ya SIN JUNKIE. Jesus said FEW FIND IT- but you wish to call HIM a liar yet again when someone points ya to HIM instead of yer boat load of FALSE DOCTRINES.
So as I said- TESTIFY THAT YOU ARE SIN FREE OR STOP THE BULLSHIT ABOUT FOLLOWING JESUS. Cuz if yer a SINNER- ya belong to the devil. Face it there hisglory77- I speak TRUTH to you and yup- it all does indeed come from the Bible. So spit on Go some more dummy. His Son ied so ya can. That's what YOU believe- and then claim to be one of "the breathern". Yer nothing BUT a pretender. Jesus "breathern" DO NOT SIN. Period. Bible says so. But come ahead and beat the messenger some more there "Mr. Christian". Satan is SO PROUD OF YOU. Ain't he?


Gordy505 57M

1/2/2010 6:05 pm

M&P---
Careful now.
Some of these folks might just drop their false religion and LOOK FOR JESUS if ya go too far...
course that might not be a bad thing... Looking to Jesus instead of religion I mean.
I dunno... there's just something about that guy... God's Son and all... I wonder... could the stuff HE taught be better than what MEN TEACH...?
If folks would only just be SHEEPS and follow ONLY HIM... my oh my oh MY how this world WOULD CHANGE.
But be careful anyway... ya might end up some sort of king or queen or something and have to wear that silly crown He'd give ya.
By the way... if that happens... let that hubby of yourn polish it some of the times- keep him busy doing something besides thanking the King of Kings for pairing him up with one of Hiz Kidz. Ya think?
Stay well M&P. "Overcome". even if no one else does.


Gordy505 57M

1/4/2010 6:54 pm

"How would that make God feel"....
Prolly like He could safely cancel the day of wrath... IF we would just OBEY FOR REAL THIS TIME.
Besides- that crown won't make very much difference to the recipient-
bout like a cowboy hat perhaps- In HIS service that He has us perform- we'd be tipping it to others all the time. And removing it altogether in His Presence. Service is the job- it'll be more like playtime than people (for the most part ) will ever understand... But then again hey- if everyone knew --- no one would be left to serve. Crown ain't so scary... forgetting what we get it for... is scary.


Gordy505 57M

1/22/2010 11:44 am

    Quoting  :

Then follow a hireling instead of the good shepherd. Jesus already told you what would happento you when ya do that. Make Paul your savior- and trot off after him since Jesus is tending HIS OWN flocks and not following Paul- or Peter- or the rest- but just kind of standing there keeping His own from the harm the other shepherds are doing. By all means... follow Paul to where Jesus warne ya a hireling woul take ya... It's ok. You go become lamb chops- and I'll just frolic at Jesus feet some more. K?
Can't tell you how glad I am that you wanna be on someone elses' dinner plate- keeping them full and satisfied- while all I have to do- is stick to Jesus like I am glued to His knee cap.
Yup... follow Paul all ya like- even HE told ya HIS STUFF DON'T WORK. But it's OK- ya belong to HIS FLOCK now- ain't got no one to blame but yerself for wandering off ya know... Jesus WARNED YA.
Ah well... some sheeps are just too STUPID to understand that "leg of lamb" only happens AFTER the BAD SHEPHERD LEADS THEM TO MARKET INSTEAD OF TO THE FOLD. Loser. Yer already WOLF LUNCH.


Gordy505 57M

1/22/2010 9:42 pm

    Quoting  :

Is ya sure ya wanna tell me JESUS said to follow another shepherd? Hmmmmm?
Are ya SURE He thought the invention of a NEW religion other than the one HIS FATHER handed us was what Jesus said He was here to do?
Do ya REALLY think yer gunna make me believe PAUL- who TAUGHT A DIFFERENT GOSPEL- is the perfect one for me to DUMP JESUS AND HAVE AS A DIFFERENT SHEPHERD ONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE?
Show me in the 4 gospels where Jesus told us Paul is the one to follow. Or did Jesus say we are to dump everything BUT Him if we wanted to be worthy of Him...
yer a stone cold sinner and you'll never quit. Ya can't. Yer following someone who told ya SIN IS OK. Jesus never once taught that- but Paul sure did. And so did some of the REST OF THE HIRED HANDS. It's why Jesus said to follow HIM- not some one else. Only HE was immune to lying about Sin. Paul wasn't- and neither was anyone else. Paul says HOPE OF SALVATION- Jesus said to follow HIM INTO IT. See the REAL DIFFERENCE EVEN YET there dummy?
Jesus is the real deal- Paul was a counterfeit- and he said so.
"Jesus only- and ONLY Jesus". The rest are all Satan's playthings. Just as you are.
You ARE still a sinner--- right?
Yup. at least ya say ya are... someone identified yer master for ya didn't they... "if ya sin- YER OF THE DEVIL"- can't even get past that one can ya?
Won't get past Jesus either- He knows yer coming- and yet He never knew ya. Think about that wee statement- DEEPLY--- "I NEVER KNEW YOU". Yer Iniquity is gunna cost ya big time- ain't it? Yup. Jesus said so. Didn't He? Might wanna believe HIM instead of a bogus religion created by other shepherds... ya think?